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re: ULM Student Accused of Rape

Posted on 11/17/17 at 8:47 am to
Posted by toddzilla
Gulf of Mexico
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 8:47 am to
Netflix and rape?
Posted by STLDawg
The Lou
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 8:48 am to
I generally a skeptic, but for this case what more do you want, video evidence?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85043 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 8:49 am to
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This is my biggest gripe when it comes to rape allegations. No one is allowed to question the woman and if you do you're "blaming her". It's the most intellectually lazy shite on Earth.
Uh. Read the story. This one is pretty cut and dry. The guy admits to it and asks her not to report it. And people want to literally blame her by asking why she didn't leave.

If anything, it's bias to assume all rapes are just women who regret it after the fact. Which has been done twice in this thread already.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 8:52 am to
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And people want to literally blame her by asking why she didn't leave.


No one literally blamed her. Someone literally asked a valid question. And I think it looks like the guy probably did it.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 8:53 am to
Tough for me to get mad, as this one hundred percent sounds like rape.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35159 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 8:56 am to
quote:

Samuel Hudgens, 18, Pollock,


That’s racist
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 8:56 am to
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quote:

approximately 20 times

This is an oddly specific number of times to say something
Exactly (or approximately) how much paste did you eat this morning?
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5479 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 8:57 am to
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Y’all are POS if y’all are blaming her for this one.


Not blaming anyone. If some chick I didn't like tried to stick her hand in my pants i'd bounce tf out. Why is this such an impossible concept to grasp?
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 8:59 am to
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So should every rape victim be asked that? Why didn’t she just walk away?



If the circumstance allows it, yes. Once you've told him "no" but he keeps trying to get your pants off, that's the time to leave.

By not asking this question in a scenario like this you're basically saying it's okay for her to ignore possible warning signs.
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 9:00 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85043 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:00 am to
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Someone literally asked a valid question.
Asking why she didn't leave? As if that's an option for every rape victim? And asking it after the guy admits he made her have sex when she didn't want to? WTF?

Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:02 am to
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If some chick I didn't like tried to stick her hand in my pants i'd bounce tf out. Why is this such an impossible concept to grasp?



what if the chick was 100 lbs heavier than you, a lot stronger than you and was holding you down?

simple concept, eh?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85043 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:05 am to
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By not asking this question in a scenario like this you're basically saying it's okay for her to ignore possible warning signs.
And you're saying it's her fault for trusting someone she's known for years and being in denial that he would take it that far. And that's not exclusive to rape. People don't want to believe that their friends, people they think they know well, are capable of bad shite. That doesn't make it their fault when their friends or family do terrible things.
Posted by PearlJam
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:07 am to
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If some chick I didn't like tried to stick her hand in my pants i'd bounce tf out. Why is this such an impossible concept to grasp?
That's fine, but if you didn't "bounce tf out" that doesn't change your non consent to consent. So, the question of why she didn't bounce tf it is irrelevant in this case as presented in the article.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:08 am to
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Asking why she didn't leave? As if that's an option for every rape victim?

So you just admitted that there is an opportunity for some to leave which would justify said question. If you were less emotionally invested in this, you'd be able to view it objectively.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77985 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:09 am to
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This is an oddly specific number of times to say something


APPROX 20.

Oddly specific would be saying she told him precisely 18 times.
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:09 am to
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So should every rape victim be asked that? Why didn’t she just walk away? Logic has nothing to do with it. She’s known the guy for years. Says she was fine with getting physical but drew a line that she didn’t believe he would cross. There’s denial there especially with someone you’re familiar with. Y’all are POS if y’all are blaming her for this one.


I believe /thread can go here.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83583 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:12 am to
the answer to "why she didn't leave?" is simple in this situation

she obviously trusted the guy enough to be alone with him and even food around with him

she didn't think he would force himself on her
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85043 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:15 am to
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So you just admitted that there is an opportunity for some to leave which would justify said question.
It doesn't justify the question at all. Just because there's an opportunity to stop a bad thing from happening, doesn't make you at fault for that bad thing. That's like saying the parents of mass murderers are guilty of those murders because they saw possible signs of mental illness and didn't take every step possible to get help for their kids.
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If you were less emotionally invested in this, you'd be able to view it objectively.
How am I emotionally invested? I've never been a rape victim and don't know one that I know of.

You are trying to defend asking an obvious victim of a crime (admitted to by the guy) why she let the crime take place. As if we need to go ask every person who was rear ended why they weren't looking in the review mirror at the time and tried to avoid getting hit. If this was just another rape allegation where the guy didn't straight up admit to it, then I'd say we need to ask questions. But that's not this specific case.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:15 am to
And that's an extremely fair and logical answer to give. I just don't understand why the act of asking that question is akin to "blaming" the victim. It's total nonsense.
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5479 posts
Posted on 11/17/17 at 9:15 am to
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what if the chick was 100 lbs heavier than you, a lot stronger than you and was holding you down?

simple concept, eh?


So we've transitioned from a netflix and chill r8p to an ally in new orleans style r8p?

This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 9:17 am
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