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re: UK sugar tax worked to cut sugar consumption by 50%; wants to implement more taxes

Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by WavinWilly
Wavin Away in Sharlo
Member since Oct 2010
9053 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:19 pm to
My general rule of thumb is always voting against taxes, but this isn't the worst tax I've heard. Taxes on sugar in prepackaged/processed foods would probably be a massive net win for the country.
Posted by LSU$$$
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
1275 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:22 pm to
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What about high fructose corn syrup?

Regular cane sugar isnt great for you but HFCS is way worse


Corn gets a bad rap because it is heavily subsidized, but Corn sugar is Beet Sugar is Cane Sugar is Sugar. I don't think any of these are worse than the other.

Even eating a ton of fruit will get you a ton of sugar, but with a dose of fiber to help flush it out.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
21839 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:23 pm to
frick HFCS, give me that Mexican Coke!
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19578 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 1:14 pm to
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it has completely different ingredients outside the US


No, it isn't that much different and has about 0.5g less sugar. If you actually had some next to US-label Heinz ketchup you think it was just a different brand like Hunt's.
Posted by HeartAttackTiger
Member since Sep 2009
572 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 1:32 pm to
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My health insurance premiums should be half as much as the morbidly obese person next to me in line at the grocery store.


I don't think you can base it solely on the weight of a person. Sure, typically plays a huge part but we do need to explore claims versus just simply the weight of someone.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31699 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 2:10 pm to
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Corn gets a bad rap because it is heavily subsidized, but Corn sugar is Beet Sugar is Cane Sugar is Sugar. I don't think any of these are worse than the other.

Even eating a ton of fruit will get you a ton of sugar, but with a dose of fiber to help flush it out.


Is that the same as high fructose corn syrup, which seems to be the really bad thing in foods??
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6344 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 3:06 pm to
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US should do this
Michelle Obama did this with school lunches, yet zero improvement was made.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75208 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 3:29 pm to
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My general rule of thumb is always voting against taxes, but this isn't the worst tax I've heard.

Then advocate for legislation that would tax or penalize food producers who insist on cramming the shite into everything they sell. Incentivize them to make healthier options and to make their unhealthy products not as bad. Do not advocate for even more taxes on the people, especially when it is a tax that will almost certainly open up a whole new can of worms (even more taxes).
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
1161 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:14 pm to
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Michelle Obama did this with school lunches, yet zero improvement was made.


My two kids and all their peers despised Big Mike for this. They all went from eating a fair portion of their school lunches to either throwing most of them away or just bringing something from home. A study done at the time showed this was nationwide, with school lunch waste increasing something like 50% after Michelle's plan was implemented.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
5565 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:20 pm to
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US should do this. Or give incentives for healthy eating.




I dunno about the US doing it but certainly if you have socialized medical care then trying to get people to stop sabotaging their health is pretty important for taxpayers.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:31 pm to
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US should do this. Or give incentives for healthy eating.
Or you could move to the UK and mind your own business.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
15653 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:36 pm to
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US should do this

Moar government. Moar requlations. Less freedom.

Government tampering is always the answer. Mother frick.

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138933 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:59 pm to
What do they use the tax money for?
Posted by Edward Rooney
Member since Jun 2024
269 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:00 pm to
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21290 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:14 pm to
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US should do this. Or give incentives for healthy eating.
Incentives like live longer, live healthier, no diabetes, be more active, feel better, lower chance of getting co-morbidity, etc.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Member since Jul 2018
8067 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:18 pm to
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Daddy gov you harder is want you want


I hate the tax idea as much as I hate the sugar lobby, and the politicians that do their bidding.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19578 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:54 pm to
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It’s not sugar. It’s HFCS. Sugar isn’t the issue.


Really?

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The role of fructose in metabolic syndrome has been the subject of controversy, but as of 2022, there is no scientific consensus that fructose or HFCS has any impact on cardiometabolic markers when substituted for sucrose.[49][50] A 2014 systematic review found little evidence for an association between HFCS consumption and liver diseases, enzyme levels or fat content.[51]



For those of you that failed Biology 099 in college, at the molecular level where it actually counts, the body doesn't care if you are gorging on table sugar or corn syrup, it only cares that you are gorging period. You fatties blaming HFCS...
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31532 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:07 pm to
Well no sh!t. Econ 101 taught me if you want to decrease the consumption of something raise it’s price.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
6394 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:12 pm to
I'm fine as long as they don't mess with booger sugar.
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 7:20 pm
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
33533 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:20 pm to
I don’t mind eating real cane sugar, it’s the lab-grown fake stuff they call sugar that I steer clear of
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