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re: Two of every species, or evolution after the flood?
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:29 pm to StrongOffer
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:29 pm to StrongOffer
quote:
Evolution can exist in a sense that species change over time. That’s different than all species evolving from a single celled organism.
How is it different? It's just micro evolution over a period of hundreds of millions of years.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:29 pm to SuperSaint
quote:That hurts coming from our resident jailhouse bitch.
besides a chromosome?
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:29 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:Account for abiogenisis. Take your time.
A wolf and coyote descending from a common ancestor is clearly evolution, and further, the kinds explanation leaves only a few thousand years to evolve. It's hyper-evolution. Yet these same folks very often don't believe in evolution so I'm curious what mechanism leads to the diverse number of species on earth from a few 'kinds.'
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:30 pm to StrongOffer
quote:
Evolution can exist in a sense that species change over time. That’s different than all species evolving from a single celled organism.
The timeline matters though
Like how long did it take to go from the ancestor to cows, elk, and moose?
I ran it through AI
quote:
Genetic and phylogenetic studies estimate that the deer family (Cervidae) and the cattle/bovine family (Bovidae) diverged from a common ruminant ancestor approximately 25 to 30 million years ago during the late Oligocene or early Miocene epoch.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:32 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Abiogenesis has nothing to do with the question I asked. I can grant you, for the sake of argument, that God personally created every original “kind.” Fine. They’re alive and standing on the Ark.
Account for abiogenisis. Take your time.
Now explain how those relatively few “kinds” became wolves, coyotes, jackals, foxes, domestic dogs, etc. in only a few thousand years without evolution.
Abiogenesis concerns the origin of life. I’m asking about the diversification of already-living organisms.
Take your time.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:32 pm to northshorebamaman
The Catholic church does not deny biological evolution, nor does it require the literal belief in the story of Noah and the new covenant.
I can't speak for the snake handlers and their manmade interpretation of Christianity.
I can't speak for the snake handlers and their manmade interpretation of Christianity.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:34 pm to faraway
is this sarcasm?
I can never believe the people who take this literally sheesh
I can never believe the people who take this literally sheesh
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:36 pm to faraway
quote:
evolution is a lie from Satan
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Irrelevant.
The timeline matters though
Like how long did it take to go from the ancestor to cows, elk, and moose?
How long would it take to go from the ancestor rat-sized fossorials "to cows, elk, and moose" .... and australopithecus?
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:38 pm to NC_Tigah
It's relevant to the people making the "kind" argument
The point is that it's a bad argument
The point is that it's a bad argument
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:39 pm to Cfrobel
quote:Because there is 0 evidence of 2-celled organisms. There is no evidence of single-celled organisms becoming multi-celled organisms. We just assume and mock anyone for asking why we just assume that process happened.
How is it different? It's just micro evolution over a period of hundreds of millions of years.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:41 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:Irrelevant.
I can grant you, for the sake of argument
Grant me that the "Entire World" for people living ~10K BC did not include the entire planet, and we can have a converstion.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:41 pm to StrongOffer
quote:I've already been 'mocked' by 4 or 5 posters just for asking the questions so that goes both directions.
We just assume and mock anyone for asking why we just assume that process happened.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:44 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
Grant me that the "Entire World" for people living ~10K BC did not include the entire planet, and we can have a converstion.
I don't think OP's personal opinion/belief would reject this
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:45 pm to northshorebamaman
You’re being mocked for not understanding the debate, not for believing in evolution. This post I’m responding to is even more support that you’re either pretending to not understand the debate or just being too dumb to have this debate.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:47 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Rats and rags..... if we're going in full medieval.
Account for abiogenisis. Take your time.
*eta: medieval - tales without science
Where: all science will ever prove, is what GOD did alone.
This post was edited on 9/28/26 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
Why is this anchored?
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:48 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:I'm not sure we can have a conversation as salty as you are after the last one, but I'll try.
Irrelevant.
Grant me that the "Entire World" for people living ~10K BC did not include the entire planet, and we can have a converstion.
If by "the entire world" you mean the entire world as understood by the people describing the event, rather than literally the whole planet, then you're arguing for a regional flood. That's a completely different claim from the young-earth/global-flood position I'm asking about.
And if that's your position, then my question about fitting representatives of every land-animal "kind" on the Ark doesn't apply to you. Noah would only need animals from whatever region was supposedly flooded.
My question is specifically for people who believe the Flood covered the entire planet, that all terrestrial animal life outside the Ark died, and that Noah carried only a relatively small number of "kinds."
You've made clear several times that isn't you so I'm not sure what you want to talk about. Start a regional flood thread and we can discuss it there.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:49 pm to StrongOffer
quote:sure sure
You’re being mocked for not understanding the debate, not for believing in evolution. This post I’m responding to is even more support that you’re either pretending to not understand the debate or just being too dumb to have this debate.
Posted on 9/28/26 at 5:50 pm to StrongOffer
quote:
Because there is 0 evidence of 2-celled organisms. There is no evidence of single-celled organisms becoming multi-celled organisms.
Multicellularity has evolved independently over 20 times. I have absolutely no idea what the lack of an exactly two celled organism proves.
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