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re: Turning Point USA announces they're putting on their own Super Bowl halftime show
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:16 pm to BugAC
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:16 pm to BugAC
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FIFY
Actually that was not true at the time of the founders but morphing to that was logical over time but non-Americans still have a lot of Constitutional rights.
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Whose rights are being trampled right now, and which rights are those?
People who don't "look" like they are American but are.
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Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:18 pm to BugAC
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Immigrants that assimilated, and were historically fiercely American.
What could be more American than playing at the Super Bowl?
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:18 pm to Obtuse1
Since I won't watch the SB as usual this does not affect me, but in the past when I did the collaboration teams were the best.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:19 pm to BugAC
quote:Bad Bunny is a WWE Superstar, what's more American than that!
Immigrants that assimilated, and were historically fiercely American.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:19 pm to Harry Caray
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America’s “culture” is inherently and historically a giant melting pot of immigrants. Or did you mean native Americans?
It’s not a melting pot if you keep your own culture and refuse to assimilate
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:20 pm to fightin tigers
quote:The Fly Girls have got to be in their late 50's by now. Hard pass.
Had In Living Color weighed in on if they will do a halftime show?
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:22 pm to Obtuse1
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Actually that was not true at the time of the founders but morphing to that was logical over time but non-Americans still have a lot of Constitutional rights
Taxation without representation was a strongly held colonial ideal. Those being in the colonies, being taxed unfairly without due representation from the taxing authority. That places ownership of the colonies with the colonists. How do you equate that to 30 million + illegals in this country subsidizing on American taxpayer dollars?
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People who don't "look" like they are American but are.
Who? What rights are being "trampled" and who are the victims of this trampling, specifically?
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:23 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:I mean all the Italian immigrants would all still be only speaking Italian if they had their own little Sicily 1,000 miles off the coast of New York that we annexed
It’s not a melting pot if you keep your own culture and refuse to assimilate
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:24 pm to Epic Cajun
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It’s not a melting pot if you keep your own culture and refuse to assimilate
Well in fairness, that is what makes those criticize the melting pot theory. Forcing groups to conform to a dominant culture can be problematic.
This post was edited on 10/9/25 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:27 pm to c on z
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It forces groups to abandon their cultural identities.
If you refuse to assimilate because you are too tied to your root culture of your home nation, then why are you leaving your home nation?
That's the difference between illegal immigration and legal immigration. Legal immigration, you must wait in line, take tests, pay $10,000 (if that's still the right number) and become Americanized into our society. Illegal immigration has no way of "earning" citizenship. It's a selfish attitude that you deserve citizenship and do not have to pay any price or pay any dues to do so.
There is a work ethic difference between the 2, and i think you can see why.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:30 pm to c on z
quote:As a Cajun whose grandparents got the French beaten out of them by the American school system....yeah I tend to agree. Would have been neat to actually understand my elders when they were alive.
Forcing groups to conform to a dominant culture can be problematic.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:32 pm to Epic Cajun
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It’s not a melting pot if you keep your own culture and refuse to assimilate
There is no reason to be poor-mouthing the Amish in this thread.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:33 pm to Harry Caray
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mean all the Italian immigrants would all still be only speaking Italian if they had their own little Sicily 1,000 miles off the coast of New York that we annexed
And if they did I wouldn’t call their culture American or get butthurt if someone inferred that they weren’t “American” even though they were technically American.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:33 pm to Harry Caray
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As a Cajun whose grandparents got the French beaten out of them by the American school system....yeah I tend to agree.
Having pride in one's ancestry is great. Refusing to conform to your parent nation and demanding your parent county's natives to conform to your culture is selfishness.
Secondly, those who refuse to learn their adopted nation's language are doomed to low education and low opportunities.
This post was edited on 10/9/25 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:35 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:No one's "butthurt" to explain to folks that Puerto Ricans are American citizens and cannot be deported. If anything, I'd say the folks putting on their own "halftime show" because they aren't satisfied with what's offered are the "butthurt" ones.
And if they did I wouldn’t call their culture American or get butthurt if someone inferred that they weren’t “American” even though they were technically American.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:36 pm to BugAC
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Who? What rights are being "trampled" and who are the victims of this trampling, specifically?
Why reply if you haven't even read the thread?
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:37 pm to BugAC
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Secondly, those who refuse to learn their adopted nation's language are doomed to low education and low opportunities.
You’re speaking to people who would probably argue that English isn’t “technically” the language of America.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:38 pm to BugAC
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Secondly, those who refuse to learn their adopted nation's language are doomed to low education and low opportunities.
If that were the case, then those born in certain parts of this country and only speaking English would already be better educated than they already are.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:40 pm to RLDSC FAN
This is great news!
Posted on 10/9/25 at 3:41 pm to BugAC
quote:That's a fair stance, I just wouldn't go so far as to say a SB halftime show featuring a Spanish-speaking artist is "demanding" Americans to conform to a different culture. We have to recognize that the Super Bowl is a worldwide event, and Bad Bunny is one of the top artists worldwide at the moment.
Having pride in one's ancestry is great. Refusing to conform to your parent nation and demanding your parent county's natives to conform to your culture is selfishness.
quote:I won't argue that at all, but my elders were simple ranchers/farmers who never wanted education or more opportunities.
Secondly, those who refuse to learn their adopted nation's language are doomed to low education and low opportunities.
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