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re: TulaneLSU's Top 10 paintings on Warehouse District building walls

Posted on 7/12/23 at 7:14 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 7:14 am to
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Big cities have all but stopped accurately reporting violent crime statistics. Most don’t turn over to the kFeds anymore.

This has a nugget of truth but ignores the overall reality.

The FBI has developed a new system and adoption isn't at 100%. It's at 60-70% and it's anticipated that in a few years the rate will be the same. LA and NYC aren't trying to avoid reporting their stats, they're huge bureaucracies and there's a lot of inertia in those systems that makes changing directions difficult.
Posted by Shut Up Mulllet
Member since Apr 2021
998 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 7:22 am to
Lol. I get it.
In this case , it very well could have been you!
Posted by TulaneLSU
Member since Aug 2003
Member since Dec 2007
13638 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 7:22 am to
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the long gone prisoner mural of the ranch scene and bull along the wall underneath of the I-10 and city park avenue overpass was the greatest public mural the city has ever seen, and a welcome site to weary eyes leaving the NOCC in the 90s.


Friend,

The mural project, as well as the haunted house in City Park, were wonderful programs of the Foti administration. The parish prison art program began in 1984, according to Uncle, with a lovely Christmas message painted on the wall of the old prison visible from the interstate. I remember clearly some of those messages in later years. The program expanded to included the painting honoring Vietnam War veterans and then 9/11 first responders, both visible on the old prison south wall facing I-10.

The talented prisoners who helped beautify the city were never given due credit. In particular, I recall the mural you mention at the City Park underpass, an underpass that now is in need of beautification, but through the 90s became an attraction to lovers of art, especially those who appreciated the muscular yet serious cartoonish work of Thomas Hart Benton. His work experienced a small renaissance in the early 90s, thanks in part to the biographic film Ken Burns made in 1988. Trivia for the day: Benton was famously opposed to modern art and he was one of Jackson Pollock’s teachers!

Benton’s symbolic and elastic depictions of man versus nature in the Midwest struck a cosmic nerve in New Orleans, and the artist in the OPP who decided that Benton's 1947 "Achelous and Hercules" would be a good fit has never received the public acclaim deserving of him.

Every cultured New Orleanian who saw the mural understood the profound battle at play in that painting. The river god, Achelous, depicted as the bull and representing the Mississippi River, tries to overcome us, New Orleans, blue jeans and all. And yet, we will not be overcome. And when we struggle, our labors will be rewarded with a bounty of harvest. Benton, of course, had in mind his native Missouri River, but the battle speaks volumes in New Orleans, where the battle against our waters rages nearly every day.

It was perhaps the most ambitious of all of the many programs’ works. At over 500 feet in length, work started in July of 1990 and was not completed until the Autumn of 1991. At the time it was one of the world’s largest and most complex murals. I suspect it inspired contemporary projects like Toledo’s Glass City River Wall.




There were two other artistically significant works our wonderful citizen artists, who were incarcerated for a time, accomplished in the 90s. First, was Dali's "Discovery of America by Christopher Columbus" (1959) which survived for several years across the Convention Center.



Second was a work that no longer would likely be appreciated in a public setting, but times were different in the 90s. Everett B.D. Julio's 1869 "The Last Meeting of Lee and Jackson." I remember seeing it for the first time on a field trip to the Confederate Museum.




Thank you for reminding us of the beauty that once adorned our public concrete walls that have since been lost or fallen into quiet abstraction. One wonders the many beautiful talents that God has given and remain unused, boxed in a 6x8.

Yours,
TulaneLSU
This post was edited on 7/12/23 at 1:43 pm
Posted by tigerbait3488
River Ridge
Member since Dec 2007
11534 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 7:24 am to
frick New Orleans
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
11939 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 7:41 am to
Bait and switch
Posted by deernaes
Member since Dec 2019
724 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 7:44 am to
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Numbers are easily manipulated


Or crimes are just not being reported?
Posted by BRisGarbage
Member since Jun 2023
68 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 8:00 am to
You’re dumbfounded bc it’s a character. People like that do exist but you can’t maintain that level of autism for that long without it causing your life serious issues.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
128272 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 8:03 am to
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New Orleans is experiencing a dramatic drop in crime


Everyone is moving out
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138918 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 8:07 am to
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People just want New Orleans to fail

It’s a beautiful city and I hope it never does

People don't want it to fail. They want the people who have led to the current state to finally realize how much of a failure their ridiculous policies are. Unfortunately, that will never happen so NOLA will continue to be a dumpster fire due to nothing more than pride and spite.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
13780 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 8:09 am to
This clown's title proclaims a dramatic drop in "crime." Yet he only cites a drop in murders from 2022's record year. Tell us, how are we faring with other crimes? How are car thefts going?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 8:14 am to
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People don't want it to fail. They want the people who have led to the current state to finally realize how much of a failure their ridiculous policies are.


Yeah people call Nola a shithole not because they're dunking on it (or, at least most people. Some people believe no city should be larger than Jennings), but because they don't want it to be a shithole.

I mean it's a kleptocratic failure. The only parts of the government that work well are the ones to siphon money from citizens.
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
5654 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 8:19 am to
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God bless New Orleans.
Seriously, please.


life is a gift from God
what we do with that life is our gift to Him
new orleans needs to bless God...
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290861 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 8:33 am to
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This city won't ever die
Just as long as her heart beats strong
Like a second line steppin' high'
Raisin' hell as we roll along
Gently to the Vieux Carre
Lower Nine, Central City, Uptown
Singin' Jacamo Fee-Nah-Nay


-fr33nator
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16402 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 9:05 am to
Thanks for the post. The positivity is appreciated. It’s true that murder and crime in general is trending downward. That’s nice to see but let’s not get carried away. Pats on the back along the way are nice but there’s still a mountain to climb.

We can’t ignore that there are still problems in the city of New Orleans. Serious problems.

They governing bodies have become corrupted.
The infrastructure needs massive improvement. Roads, water systems, pumps…
Graffiti is a problem.
Car theft is a problem.
Hiring police is a problem.
Racial relations are a problem.

Again, the positivity is nice. There’s more work to do
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
3004 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 9:11 am to
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To live and be alive here, what a feeling!

first off, you're lucky to be alive there, literally


quote:

New Orleans, my friends, what a wondrous place

second, pass the good shite, i want whatever it is you're having.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15968 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 9:19 am to
It's hot as the devil's a-hole outside, even the criminals don't want to come out. Of course crime is down.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108972 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 9:22 am to
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People just want New Orleans to fail



The city has failed the people man.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122162 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 9:24 am to
I don't like how you think that being all religious makes you better than people. You are not better than me.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60663 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 9:28 am to
Rejoice!
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11315 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 9:29 am to
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The FBI has developed a new system and adoption isn't at 100%. It's at 60-70% and it's anticipated that in a few years the rate will be the same. LA and NYC aren't trying to avoid reporting their stats, they're huge bureaucracies and there's a lot of inertia in those systems that makes changing directions difficult.


Horse shite and you know it.

The one glaring reality of crime stats was black crime in urban centers.

This made these elected officials and LEO look bad (ie held accountable) risking their positions of power/wealth.

They stopped responding before the FBI change to the less accurate methodology.

It’s not hard, click the box beside murder when it happens and record the sex and race of the person when the crime happens. They already do all this.

Over simplified but leadership in these places have great personal reasons to avoid reporting.

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