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re: TSA fails 80% of tests in latest undercover operation at US airports

Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:16 pm to
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Yeah you read it right. Explain why a mother needs to bring breast milk on a plane? She can't breast feed during the dang flight?


Because not all babies can latch on, so the mother must pump to supply all the milk.

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Put extra milk in the check on.


With any delay in baggage handling could spoil the supply.

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Why does a dad need breast milk? How often do dads travel with breast fed kids without the mom? Is that really a necessity?


I traveled with my child who was still consuming breast milk.

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You need a breast pump in the carry on? LOl, ugh no. check it.


Same issue with checking the breast milk. And mothers who do pump must do so at certain intervals. So any trip over a certain period of time they would need to pump.

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My safety is more important than minor inconveniences.


You realize the same type of employees that are scanning carry on luggage are also monitoring checked luggage? So your safety doesn't change if the items are checked or not.



Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7456 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:16 pm to
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My safety is more important than minor inconveniences.


If you're that worried about your personal safety maybe YOU shouldn't fly.
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:18 pm to
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The quality of people working these checkpoints isn’t much higher than fast food places.

Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:24 pm to
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Not really, kind of the whole point of this thread.

But getting a loaded gun through is one thing. Getting a gun plus enough ammo to kill hundreds on the plane is getting a little theory crazy and creating fear where none should exist.



Holy shite you’re an argumentative little frick. Ok then, if someone sneaking a gun on is realistic, please outline the last time this happened on a flight based out of the U.S.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24485 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:24 pm to
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Because not all babies can latch on, so the mother must pump to supply all the milk.


They make manual hand pumps. The amount that do this is incredibly incredibly small. With ice, breast milk would last in a cooler for over 20 hours. That's plenty of time.

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You realize the same type of employees that are scanning carry on luggage are also monitoring checked luggage?


It's a lot harder to hijack or blow a plane up with checked luggage. No access to a gun, knife, or bomb that's set off by hand. Plus little to no chance of survival by the terrorist.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24485 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:35 pm to
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My safety is more important than minor inconveniences.


If you're that worried about your personal safety maybe YOU shouldn't fly.


Lol. Ok.

There's 2 answers to solve this:

1. Hire better people that costs more money and increases ticket costs.

2. Make the job easier by allowing less items on the planes

So take your pick.
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4762 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 2:31 pm to
There’s a third option: realize that TSA doesn’t make us any safer and go back to less invasive airport screening. It would make travel less of a chore.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 2:40 pm to
I mean their budget is only $7.5 billion. They just need moar money!
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24485 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 2:40 pm to
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There’s a third option: realize that TSA doesn’t make us any safer


Any? You honestly believe that? Come on.

I can tell you they routinely find water and soaps out of place I see it routinely.

So we should just let the general public conceal carry and protect ourselves?

Security is actually an incredibly easy thing. We are making it complicated by allowing modern conveniences in the cabin.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 2:40 pm to
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Lafayette just has a metal detector, no scanner at all.


seriously? How did they get out of a body scanner?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36809 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 2:42 pm to
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Dude patted down one of my boots and swiped for explosive residue. Just one boot. It’s really comical




Wel do ya think someone who was making a bomb would only be wearing one boot?
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7456 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 3:03 pm to
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The amount that do this is incredibly incredibly small


I'm willing to be the number of babies that can't latch is equal or greater, by percentage, to the number of planes that are hijacked.

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There’s a third option: realize that TSA doesn’t make us any safer


Any? You honestly believe that? Come on.


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TSA fails 80% of tests in latest undercover operation at US airports


Yeah, I honestly believe that TSA, at best, makes flying negligibly safer.
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
39015 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 3:09 pm to
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security theater


This is all the TSA is... except interacting with them only makes me feel LESS safe since I get to witness the aggressively stupid tubby "officers"
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92381 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 3:12 pm to
I flew from Orlando to D.C. to Vermont and then back the same way with a 4 inch knife in the part of my backpack that holds a drink on the side. Not even inside the backpack. It would have fallen out if turned upside down.


No TSA people caught it.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42784 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 3:27 pm to
So does this mean we can do away with TSA screening all together?
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
76783 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 3:28 pm to
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So does this mean we can do away with TSA screening all together?


yep, just tell them you're an OT poster and walk right on by.
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4762 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:05 pm to
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Any? You honestly believe that? Come on. I can tell you they routinely find water and soaps out of place I see it routinely. So we should just let the general public conceal carry and protect ourselves?


Ok- maybe I wasn’t clear. I don’t believe the screening done by TSA in the airport where they check to see if you are smuggling water on the plane makes us any safer than pre-TSA screening was. I am willing to concede that checking ID against lists of known terrorists is probably a good idea. But even that process has not been painless.

In short, my firm belief is that we as a society overreact to everything. All the security theater is just that- theater. It makes some people feel better. It doesn’t make us safer.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 5:00 pm to
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I flew from Orlando to D.C. to Vermont and then back the same way with a 4 inch knife in the part of my backpack that holds a drink on the side. Not even inside the backpack. It would have fallen out if turned upside down


How many restaurants, sky lounges, or first class meal trays in the airport or on the plane could you take any number of relatively sharp utinsels from?

The real security is in the locking door on the cockpit and the flight attendant using the drink trolley to block the isle when the pilot has to use the bathroom. TSA may not see a knife. They damn well better catch explosives or a gun though.
This post was edited on 11/9/17 at 5:01 pm
Posted by Chiefagain
Member since Nov 2016
1808 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 5:50 pm to
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I had 40 letter openers in my carryon




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