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re: TSA fails 80% of tests in latest undercover operation at US airports
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:16 pm to baldona
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:16 pm to baldona
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Yeah you read it right. Explain why a mother needs to bring breast milk on a plane? She can't breast feed during the dang flight?
Because not all babies can latch on, so the mother must pump to supply all the milk.
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Put extra milk in the check on.
With any delay in baggage handling could spoil the supply.
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Why does a dad need breast milk? How often do dads travel with breast fed kids without the mom? Is that really a necessity?
I traveled with my child who was still consuming breast milk.
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You need a breast pump in the carry on? LOl, ugh no. check it.
Same issue with checking the breast milk. And mothers who do pump must do so at certain intervals. So any trip over a certain period of time they would need to pump.
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My safety is more important than minor inconveniences.
You realize the same type of employees that are scanning carry on luggage are also monitoring checked luggage? So your safety doesn't change if the items are checked or not.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:16 pm to baldona
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My safety is more important than minor inconveniences.
If you're that worried about your personal safety maybe YOU shouldn't fly.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:18 pm to Dizz
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The quality of people working these checkpoints isn’t much higher than fast food places.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:24 pm to PrivatePublic
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Not really, kind of the whole point of this thread.
But getting a loaded gun through is one thing. Getting a gun plus enough ammo to kill hundreds on the plane is getting a little theory crazy and creating fear where none should exist.
Holy shite you’re an argumentative little frick. Ok then, if someone sneaking a gun on is realistic, please outline the last time this happened on a flight based out of the U.S.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:24 pm to Golfer
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Because not all babies can latch on, so the mother must pump to supply all the milk.
They make manual hand pumps. The amount that do this is incredibly incredibly small. With ice, breast milk would last in a cooler for over 20 hours. That's plenty of time.
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You realize the same type of employees that are scanning carry on luggage are also monitoring checked luggage?
It's a lot harder to hijack or blow a plane up with checked luggage. No access to a gun, knife, or bomb that's set off by hand. Plus little to no chance of survival by the terrorist.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 1:35 pm to Wayne Campbell
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My safety is more important than minor inconveniences.
If you're that worried about your personal safety maybe YOU shouldn't fly.
Lol. Ok.
There's 2 answers to solve this:
1. Hire better people that costs more money and increases ticket costs.
2. Make the job easier by allowing less items on the planes
So take your pick.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 2:31 pm to baldona
There’s a third option: realize that TSA doesn’t make us any safer and go back to less invasive airport screening. It would make travel less of a chore.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 2:40 pm to member12
I mean their budget is only $7.5 billion. They just need moar money!
Posted on 11/9/17 at 2:40 pm to BR Tiger
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There’s a third option: realize that TSA doesn’t make us any safer
Any? You honestly believe that? Come on.
I can tell you they routinely find water and soaps out of place I see it routinely.
So we should just let the general public conceal carry and protect ourselves?
Security is actually an incredibly easy thing. We are making it complicated by allowing modern conveniences in the cabin.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 2:40 pm to Epic Cajun
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Lafayette just has a metal detector, no scanner at all.
seriously? How did they get out of a body scanner?
Posted on 11/9/17 at 2:42 pm to Motorboat
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Dude patted down one of my boots and swiped for explosive residue. Just one boot. It’s really comical
Wel do ya think someone who was making a bomb would only be wearing one boot?
Posted on 11/9/17 at 3:03 pm to baldona
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The amount that do this is incredibly incredibly small
I'm willing to be the number of babies that can't latch is equal or greater, by percentage, to the number of planes that are hijacked.
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There’s a third option: realize that TSA doesn’t make us any safer
Any? You honestly believe that? Come on.
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TSA fails 80% of tests in latest undercover operation at US airports
Yeah, I honestly believe that TSA, at best, makes flying negligibly safer.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 3:09 pm to PrivatePublic
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security theater
This is all the TSA is... except interacting with them only makes me feel LESS safe since I get to witness the aggressively stupid tubby "officers"
Posted on 11/9/17 at 3:12 pm to member12
I flew from Orlando to D.C. to Vermont and then back the same way with a 4 inch knife in the part of my backpack that holds a drink on the side. Not even inside the backpack. It would have fallen out if turned upside down.
No TSA people caught it.
No TSA people caught it.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 3:27 pm to member12
So does this mean we can do away with TSA screening all together?
Posted on 11/9/17 at 3:28 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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So does this mean we can do away with TSA screening all together?
yep, just tell them you're an OT poster and walk right on by.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 4:05 pm to baldona
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Any? You honestly believe that? Come on. I can tell you they routinely find water and soaps out of place I see it routinely. So we should just let the general public conceal carry and protect ourselves?
Ok- maybe I wasn’t clear. I don’t believe the screening done by TSA in the airport where they check to see if you are smuggling water on the plane makes us any safer than pre-TSA screening was. I am willing to concede that checking ID against lists of known terrorists is probably a good idea. But even that process has not been painless.
In short, my firm belief is that we as a society overreact to everything. All the security theater is just that- theater. It makes some people feel better. It doesn’t make us safer.
Posted on 11/9/17 at 5:00 pm to ReauxlTide222
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I flew from Orlando to D.C. to Vermont and then back the same way with a 4 inch knife in the part of my backpack that holds a drink on the side. Not even inside the backpack. It would have fallen out if turned upside down
How many restaurants, sky lounges, or first class meal trays in the airport or on the plane could you take any number of relatively sharp utinsels from?
The real security is in the locking door on the cockpit and the flight attendant using the drink trolley to block the isle when the pilot has to use the bathroom. TSA may not see a knife. They damn well better catch explosives or a gun though.
This post was edited on 11/9/17 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 11/9/17 at 5:50 pm to X123F45
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I had 40 letter openers in my carryon
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