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Toyota will not replace every Tundra/Lexus engine. Will rely on AI/software

Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:54 pm
Posted by jfan244888
Soda City, SC
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 7:54 pm
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Toyota has a massive project on its hands with twin-turbo V6 repairs. More than 270,000 vehicles with the V35A-FTS engine have been recalled to date, with the only thorough remedy thus far being complete engine replacements. That remains the case for some Toyota Tundra pickups as well as Lexus LX SUVs, but now, the manufacturer will require many to undergo dealer evaluation with new inspection software to determine if their engines are actually defective.

The new protocol is detailed in a National Highway Traffic Safety Administration document, updated on June 15. It reads as follows:

All known owners of the subject vehicles will be notified to return their vehicles to a Toyota and Lexus dealer. Using an inspection software, dealers will evaluate the #1 main bearing and collect available vehicle drive data to confirm the condition of that bearing. If the inspection software cannot confirm that the bearing will be free from abnormal wear due to this issue, dealers will replace the engine. The remedy will be provided free of charge.”

To quickly get you up to speed, some of Toyota’s V6 truck engines have failed due to problems with the aforementioned main bearing. Manufacturing debris, called swarf, can adhere to the main bearing and cause knocking, rough idle, or total engine shutdown. It’s been the subject of three expansive recalls at this point, with the first issued in May 2024, the second in November 2025, and the latest in May 2026.


had questions for Toyota about which vehicles this new protocol applies to. When reached for comment, a Toyota spokesperson explained that earlier trucks—those included in the May 2024 recall—will still receive engine replacements if they haven’t already. (So far, Toyota has replaced more than 70,000 twin-turbo V6s.) And when I asked if Toyota and Lexus owners who have had their V35A-FTS replaced already would need to undergo the inspection, the spokesperson replied, “No. A design change was implemented to the #1 main bearing starting July 2024, which has been used in vehicles that have received the recall remedy.”

I also asked how this inspection software works, considering that the info is gathered from drive data rather than engine disassembly. The Toyota spokesperson explained, “Fundamentally, this inspection uses the resonant frequency of the front of the crankshaft to assess the condition of the #1 main bearing. Toyota’s development of this inspection included testing numerous engines to identify the resonant frequency differences between a #1 main bearing with and without abnormal wear.

“In addition, available vehicle drive data is collected to determine if there has been enough load that has been put on the engine so that there is confidence in the assessment of the condition of the #1 main bearing. If there is insufficient vehicle drive data, the engine will be replaced.”


So if there is damage in a bearing other than #1, will they fix it? Also, since they're checking vehicle data/load, if you tow for a long distance and the engine blows up, will they fix it?

I think Toyota has shot itself in both feet and arms with this imo
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
14271 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:17 pm to
Lawyers gonna feast. How many class actions are already out there?
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31897 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:31 pm to
So they will make you believe that you have a real engine.
Posted by Sharlo
Van down by the river.
Member since Oct 2021
1806 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:36 pm to
Toyota went full retard on these turbo V6s.

They had the most badass, damn near indestructible V8 ever invented in those first few generations of Tundras. (Talking about the 327s)

And they killed it for another POS turbo V6.

Who keeps convincing automakers to bet on those damned things?

Dumb.

And I agree that the lawsuits will be incredible when the casualties start to pile up because the AI missed something, isn't yet dialed in, or needed an update. As they should be.

Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132569 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:39 pm to
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Who keeps convincing automakers to bet on those damned things?


Uh, an insane leftist EPA along with leftists on the boards of these car companies

Trump rolled back some regs but the next dem president will just bring them back. So companies will sacrifice reliability for a few extra MPG
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80787 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:39 pm to
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Who keeps convincing automakers to bet on those damned things?
Probably the government and CAFE standards.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
17664 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:40 pm to
Isn’t all this because of the bullshite cafe standards?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66423 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:40 pm to
Feeling better and better about keeping my old taco with the v6 and adding a f150 with a v8. Almost traded in taco for a tundra
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
16148 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 8:58 pm to
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Uh, an insane leftist EPA along with leftists on the boards of these car companies


Not the government’s fault Toyota can’t make a reliable engine.

Ford has been making a 3.5 V6 since what? 2013 without them eating their bearings.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18961 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 9:45 pm to
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Ford has been making a 3.5 V6 since what?

You mean the one that was subsidized by US tax payers? Toyota might have caught this if DOE gave them a sweetheart loan deal like Ford got.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
10809 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:01 pm to
What are you talking about?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66423 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:03 pm to
Nobody should forget that our tax dollars have propped up gm and ford
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18961 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:05 pm to
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What are you talking about?

The ecoboost was developed with funds from the DOE.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
17011 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:11 pm to
In other words Toyo ain't fixing unless the engine blows up
Posted by Them
Viewing the lake
Member since Nov 2008
11403 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:11 pm to
My dad has a 2012 Tundra 4.6 with ~220,000 miles that has literally never needed anything other than regular basic maintenance, i.e. tires, brakes, suspension and batteries. No leaks, no check engine lights, no unexpected problems, ever.







I fear that no one will ever be able to make that same statement honestly about one of the new Tundras.
Posted by Sharlo
Van down by the river.
Member since Oct 2021
1806 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:13 pm to
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Uh, an insane leftist EPA along with leftists on the boards of these car companies



Oh yeah, those f***ers.

How does that work, the way they impose all these crappy engines on us?

Toyota ran that 327 V8 for something like 15 years. How does the mobster agency state finally leverage them into making Ford-like crap trucks?
Posted by KCRoyalBlue
Member since Nov 2020
2294 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:13 pm to
We wouldn't have all these problems if the manufacturers would go back to looser bearing clearances and 10W30 conventional like God intended.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
17526 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:14 pm to
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Who keeps convincing automakers to bet on those damned things

CAFE standards. But you knew that answer. Government makes everything better.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135014 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:15 pm to
Toyota has rested on their laurels for too long and it's showing.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
16148 posts
Posted on 6/17/26 at 10:19 pm to
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The ecoboost was developed with funds from the DOE.


Funds that they paid back in a few months?

Hell, ford and Toyota worked together on this latest V6 hybrid situation for a few years until they broke up about it and Toyota failed with their own version.
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