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Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:19 am to FOBW
I have an older model LX that I refuse to sell at this point until its 100% clear that either the new models have figured out the issues with the turbos and transmissions for long term use or they begin offering the older powertrains again.
Absolutely no chance Im spending $115k on an suv that has a ticking timebomb under the hood and that applies to every major manufacturer currently post Biden era CAFE changes.
This entire era of cars is going to be looked at like the horrible offerings out of Detroit were in the mid 70s where no one wants them and its 100% downstream of government interference.
Can apply the same logic to HVAC systems as well.
All we can do is hope the removal of those regulations and time fixes the issue but there is no safe option in the full size truck/SUV market IMO.
Absolutely no chance Im spending $115k on an suv that has a ticking timebomb under the hood and that applies to every major manufacturer currently post Biden era CAFE changes.
This entire era of cars is going to be looked at like the horrible offerings out of Detroit were in the mid 70s where no one wants them and its 100% downstream of government interference.
Can apply the same logic to HVAC systems as well.
All we can do is hope the removal of those regulations and time fixes the issue but there is no safe option in the full size truck/SUV market IMO.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:21 am to BottomlandBrew
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I'm so glad I have a Toyota with a naturally aspirated engine. I'm driving that bitch into the ground
You'll die before it does most likely.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:23 am to BottomlandBrew
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I'm so glad I have a Toyota with a naturally aspirated engine. I'm driving that bitch into the ground.
Me too. I'm not a car salesman, so I don't care about sales numbers. What I care about is a comfortable, easily maintained, reliable truck and my 1st Gen Tundra has proven to be just that. I know of two that are the same age as mine that have eclipsed 500k miles. I'm not near that yet, but it shows no indication that it won't go at least that long.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:27 am to FOBW
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the only thorough remedy thus far being complete engine replacements.
With the very same engines that are failing from the factory. What a shite show.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:29 am to FOBW
I have a 24 Tundra Hybrid and Toyota doesn’t include the hybrids in the recall even though it’s the same engine. They claim in the event of an emergency, the hybrid motor can supposedly get you off the road.
Thankfully I got the extended power train warranty, so if something does go awry I’m covered, but it sucks knowing that I’m driving a ticking timebomb.
Thankfully I got the extended power train warranty, so if something does go awry I’m covered, but it sucks knowing that I’m driving a ticking timebomb.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:31 am to Gifman
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This is why the price for used 4Runners before 2025 are through the roof. People don’t want to mess around with a 4cyl turbo.
They won’t be the same as the tundras. These engines in the 4Runners have been around for a long time at this point. No issues to speak of. The v6 in the tundra has been having issues ever since it came out in the LS back in 2017.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:33 am to FOBW
They are still having issues with machining debris, which seems rediculous 4 years after production started. I'm so glad I got a 21 when I did. I would not be happy if I had purchased an affected machine and wasn't getting any clear answers.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:38 am to TDsngumbo
Mine is a 2016 with 190k miles and still runs like new. It’s really remarkable. No squeaks, no rattles, no cracked dash or anything like that. Just regular maintenance other than issues related to my catalytic converters being stolen.
I know plenty other trucks have long lives. My dad had his 2002 Silverado 5.3 for 250k problem free miles but the interior was falling apart and he had to replace the dashboard. This truck of mine just seems impervious to aging, and I drive it hard. I love it but sometimes I think “why can’t you give me some sort of problem so I can justify a new truck?” If I had room in my driveway I’d just have two trucks.
I know plenty other trucks have long lives. My dad had his 2002 Silverado 5.3 for 250k problem free miles but the interior was falling apart and he had to replace the dashboard. This truck of mine just seems impervious to aging, and I drive it hard. I love it but sometimes I think “why can’t you give me some sort of problem so I can justify a new truck?” If I had room in my driveway I’d just have two trucks.
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:42 am to FOBW
Any word on the Hybrid V6 motors? Last I heard they are not affected
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:43 am to FOBW
Still driving my '08 Tacoma with 160K on it. V6. That will be the last Toyota I get.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:44 am to DomincDecoco
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Loving my 21 Last of the V8s!
I only see those “appreciating”…
Posted on 6/17/26 at 11:59 am to 3deadtrolls
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At some point Toyota needs to just say frick it and re-release the previous model. The current model was a redesign and new powertrain that literally no one asked for. I know they can't/won't, but I think that's the only way to save this thing unless they really enjoy being distant 4th.
2024 was the 2nd highest selling year ever for the Tundra. Only had a small decrease in sales for 2025. This isn't effecting sales like people on TD think it is. The 2025 Tacoma was the highest selling year ever.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:09 pm to El Segundo Guy
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I bought a 19 Tundra with the 5.7. Has less than 40k miles. There's no way in hell I'd take a new Tundra with the turbo V6 to replace it.
I bought a 2020 last year with 30K miles on it for that same reason. Zero buyer remorse.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:21 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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2024 was the 2nd highest selling year ever for the Tundra. Only had a small decrease in sales for 2025.
That’s amazing to me. But most people aren’t keeping up with auto industry news and are oblivious. Same people who actually use the start/stop instead of pressing the button to disable it.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:27 pm to FOBW
I am looking around for a newer car and I have settled on a Mazda.. No Turbo and no Hybrid crap... I have to look and pay attention because the listings for Hybrids are buried deep in the description of the vehicle.. And there are plenty of Hybrids and Turbos on the used market...
My sister in law recently bought a new 2024 or 2025 Chevy Trailblazer with the Turbo and that is the first thing that took a dump...
My sister in law recently bought a new 2024 or 2025 Chevy Trailblazer with the Turbo and that is the first thing that took a dump...
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:34 pm to biglego
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That’s amazing to me. But most people aren’t keeping up with auto industry news and are oblivious.
I think too people see that Toyota is actually doing the right thing and replacing engines and that is reassuring. I know a guy that Toyota replaced the engine on his at 120K miles. I mean who wouldn't be happy with a new motor for free at 120K miles? I know that's not every situation obvious and having a motor fail on a 70K truck at 20K miles is probably annoying as hell.
But the Toyota recall is like 1/5 the size of the Chevy 6.2 recall that you don't hear nearly as much complaints about on here for some reason and Chevy isn't making it right in a lot of those cases.
I have a newer Tundra that avoided the recall/my engine wasn't a build date that had the issue, but I feel like even if I did, I would have some confidence in the future buying a Toyota again given how they are making it right and doing major repairs while Chevy and Ford are doing their best to get out of repairs.
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Same people who actually use the start/stop instead of pressing the button to disable it.
So stupid. I drove my mom's Bronco for a bit after she passed and that was the first thing I did when I started the vehicle, turn that immediately off. I never looked into how it all worked but I was would think how is the starter not going to go out 10x faster on these things?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 12:35 pm to holmesbr
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The YouTube guy Dave's Auto Repair channel tore one down. Full of metal shavings. That's the guy with the diesel repair shop in Utah if I got the channel name wrong. It's more than a rebuild to fix that Toyota motor.
I watched that last night. Knowing this is an issue in these engines I change my oil on my GX every 5k miles. The dealership knows the issue and still recommends every 10k miles. The only reason I deal with them is because I want it documented.
That engine in the video was fricked. Metal shavings everywhere.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 1:06 pm to Gifman
Bought a used 2022 4Runner V6 in January
Posted on 6/17/26 at 1:07 pm to StrikeIndicator
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Any word on the Hybrid V6 motors? Last I heard they are not affected
*not included in the recall
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