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Posted on 1/31/25 at 10:52 am to VABuckeye
Posted on 1/31/25 at 10:52 am to VABuckeye
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Who wouldn't be sitting? The rule at that point of the flight is that you are seated and belted in. Not one person should be out of their seats including flight attendants
He's saying the people sitting at the point of impact died instantly, while anyone else may have been alive until the water.
Not that anyone was doing the Conga in the aisle on descent.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 10:53 am
Posted on 1/31/25 at 10:58 am to GatorOnAnIsland
So I’ve read this helicopter was 200ft too high and a 1/2 mile off course. How is that allowed to happen? Shouldn’t the instructor have corrected the pilot?
That coupled with the footage really has me thinking something evil happened.
That coupled with the footage really has me thinking something evil happened.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 11:28 am
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:03 am to TDsngumbo
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little bit of doubt is starting to creep into my mind that this was an accident.
A plot to eliminate the US Skating Team in one blow?
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:05 am to PJinAtl
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In this case they expected the helo to be below, but also pass behind, the plane so not only do you have vertical clearance but horizontal as well.
So it sounds like the helicopter should have been hugging the eastern bank of the river at 200 feet. Instead, it was too far west over the water in addition to being too high.

Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:09 am to DrrTiger
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it sounds like the helicopter should have been hugging the eastern bank of the river at 200 feet. Instead, it was too far west over the water in addition to being too high.
This, in a nutshell, is what this thread boils down to. If the Helo had been at the correct altitude contact would not have happened. If the Helo had been right above the Eastern Bank of the river, contact would not have happened.
Now the how and why are to be determined.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:13 am to Darth_Vader
Less than 5 seconds between impact of helo and impact with water. If the helo impact didn’t kill them, the water impact 5 seconds later would, or at least knock unconscious u tik they drowned a minute later.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:14 am to kengel2
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The only thing is if they were using night vision.
Why would they be using night vision in the middle of a lit up major metro?
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:17 am to LSUFanHouston
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Why would they be using night vision in the middle of a lit up major metro?
To be recertified to fly while wearing it
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:22 am to LCA131
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If the Helo had been at the correct altitude contact would not have happened. If the Helo had been right above the Eastern Bank of the river, contact would not have happened.
That's why the route is there. Because it works. But it requires competent pilots to work.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:25 am to tilco
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So I’ve read this plane was 200ft too high and a 1/2 mile off course. How is that allowed to happen? Shouldn’t the instructor have corrected the pilot?
I think you're confusing the plane with the helicopter. The plane was not too high, nor off course.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:25 am to bikerack
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To be recertified to fly while wearing it
Recertification for something that knowingly hinders your spatial awareness, flying VFR, at night, in one of the most heavily controlled and busy airspaces in the world, seems like a great idea.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:27 am to Festus
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I think you're confusing the plane with the helicopter. The plane was not too high, nor off course.
Correct I’m sorry I wrote plane instead of helo
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:35 am to tilco
What else is there to look at in a helicopter?
Especially when near an airport? Instruments should have told him he was too close. Or his windshield should have told him?
Does a Blackhawk have TCAS. If I’m using the right initials? The “Too close. Do not hit!” System.
Especially when near an airport? Instruments should have told him he was too close. Or his windshield should have told him?
Does a Blackhawk have TCAS. If I’m using the right initials? The “Too close. Do not hit!” System.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:37 am to kengel2
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The only thing is if they were using night vision. Peripheral vision, depth perception is all greatly impacted in a negative way
Night vision is not on a screen in front the pilot? He should still be able to see out the windows.
A lot of coonasses in the gulf have a night vision screen, a radar screen, and a gps with AIS that shows the location of all commercial vessels. Surely the damn plane and chopper had this....
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:40 am to LCA131
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Now the how and why are to be determined.
And maybe the biggest mystery: how do you not see a jet with its landing lights on approaching you from 10 o’clock?

Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:43 am to bushwacker
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the gulf have a night vision screen, a radar screen, and a gps with AIS that shows the location of all commercial vessels.
Nah. They’re rocking FLIR, radar, and gps with AIS integration. And the Gulf isn’t special in that realm.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:47 am to DrrTiger
I don't know why people suggesting the idea that this could've been intentional get downvoted so much.
For every bit of evidence this was a mistake you can find a piece of evidence that suggests it was intentional.
For every bit of evidence this was a mistake you can find a piece of evidence that suggests it was intentional.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:50 am to DrrTiger
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So it sounds like the helicopter should have been hugging the eastern bank of the river at 200 feet. Instead, it was too far west over the water in addition to being too high.
The fact the helo requested and was granted VFR complicates matters as it gives them more freedom to operate. Should have never been granted in this location and situation. That may be something that changes. The night vision goggles in that situation may have as well.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:52 am to WestSideTiger
If these night vision goggles inhibit a pilot's vision as much as people are theorizing, why even allow the to be used while flying near a major international airport to begin with?
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:53 am to TDsngumbo
The OT needs to stick to solving murders and collecting stolen trailers and/or pontoon boats. Beyond that it's an AI supercell of poli retard and crawfish products with a byproduct being the poli bord.
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