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Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:40 am to TheGasMan
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:40 am to TheGasMan
first actual source I've seen from a real, verified person
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:40 am to LNCHBOX
I’m telling you that the pilot couldn’t be charged with busting an altitude for indicating 200’ off. It would have to be 300’.
Regardless, you want the helo to pass behind traffic, as instructed. Using 100’ separation with a descending arrival isn’t a winning plan.
Regardless, you want the helo to pass behind traffic, as instructed. Using 100’ separation with a descending arrival isn’t a winning plan.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:45 am to Enadious
What were the altitudes of the planes the Blackhawk was “trying to crash into”?
I’m pretty sure planes aren’t just cruising the potomac at 300-500 feet
I’m pretty sure planes aren’t just cruising the potomac at 300-500 feet
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:45 am to Darth_Vader
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Considering it lead to this crash, I believe it is.
To me, the issue of the chopper being higher than 200 feet seems secondary to it flying directly across airspace used by landing jets. But I’m no expert.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:46 am to 257WBY
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I’m telling you that the pilot couldn’t be charged with busting an altitude for indicating 200’ off. It would have to be 300’.
Ok, still seems like a pretty monumental frickup in this situation
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:46 am to Hodag
Ok
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:46 am to JohnnyKilroy
They’re flying the Potomac at 100’
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:48 am to 257WBY
Who is?
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:49 am to LNCHBOX
You’re not wrong, but what ATC didn’t need to happen was the two radar targets merge with one of those targets in a descent. Instructions were given to avoid merging targets.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:50 am to JohnnyKilroy
Helicopters are flying the Potomac at 100’
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:57 am to Ingeniero
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Have you considered that the tranny they're claiming was flying the helicopter posted on Facebook this morning?
I just saw it, so definitely debunked.
Like I said earlier (might have been a different thread), we will know before the end of the day. Well, it didn't even take that long.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:02 am to OMLandshark
new footage
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:09 am to RelicBatches86
god damn that is terrible to see up close like that.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:11 am to Kracka
I’m guessing a bunch of military brass will no longer be able to use helicopters as Taxis in the DC area when this all shakes out.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:17 am to 257WBY
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I’m guessing a bunch of military brass will no longer be able to use helicopters as Taxis in the DC area when this all shakes out.
Is that what this was? Taxi's for 4 stars, or was it a common security patrol.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:17 am to 257WBY
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I’m guessing a bunch of military brass will no longer be able to use helicopters as Taxis in the DC area when this all shakes out.
They just need to stop flying them across the glideslope of aircraft.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:20 am to Kracka
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Is that what this was? Taxi's for 4 stars, or was it a common security patrol.
Hegseth said it was a training/recertification flight for a continuity of govt mission....
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:21 am to bikerack
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:25 am to TDTOM
It is very common to route vfr traffic directly over the middle of the runway. Typically there isn’t anyone in the air over the middle of the runway. This seems much safer than in the approach/departure path.
I’ve gone right over the top of dfw and atl. Crazy watching all that traffic below you.
I’ve gone right over the top of dfw and atl. Crazy watching all that traffic below you.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:29 am to RelicBatches86
That's terrible to watch. You can see how the plane just flips over and over until crashing into the river. Those poor people who weren't sitting at the point of impact must've been terrified.
Also, I don't see how this wasn't intentional after seeing it up close like that. How the hell did they not see that plane? The helicopter crew was experienced and we've been told the only thing that made this a "training" flight is the fact that they were maintaining their flying hours requirement or something to that effect. What the hell, man? They most definitely had the skill, knowledge, and ability to go up, down, or out of the fricking way in general but they chose to keep flying straight toward that plane.
A little bit of doubt is starting to creep into my mind that this was an accident.
Also, I don't see how this wasn't intentional after seeing it up close like that. How the hell did they not see that plane? The helicopter crew was experienced and we've been told the only thing that made this a "training" flight is the fact that they were maintaining their flying hours requirement or something to that effect. What the hell, man? They most definitely had the skill, knowledge, and ability to go up, down, or out of the fricking way in general but they chose to keep flying straight toward that plane.
A little bit of doubt is starting to creep into my mind that this was an accident.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 9:31 am
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