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re: Top Ranked Public High Schools in Louisiana (2021) - Magnet Schools Dominate

Posted on 4/27/21 at 4:44 pm to
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 4:44 pm to
The rankings are based on 5 factors one of which was-

Math and reading performance rank-
how scores on state assessments compare with US New's expectations given the proportions of students who are black and from low income households.


So a school like Live Oak High School, had the 48th best Math and Reading Scores in the state, but were ranked #243. They were dropped a 195 spots due to "The total minority enrollment is 8%"

Warren Easton ranked #62 in this category, despite ranking #215 in actual test scores.
This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 4:46 pm
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 4:55 pm to
Now add private schools and see what it looks like
Posted by killinme_smalls
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2005
503 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 5:19 pm to
Yep. And zachary is almost 60% minority now so gets a bump on that. Also, factors like attendance are considered in scoring. All the PRA moms in the office calling to harass parents when students aren’t there comes in handy. There is a small yet significant flight from Zachary schools to catholic/SHA, U Lab, Parkview, Episcopal and even Silliman.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42290 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

The rankings are based on 5 factors one of which was- Math and reading performance rank- how scores on state assessments compare with US New's expectations given the proportions of students who are black and from low income households. So a school like Live Oak High School, had the 48th best Math and Reading Scores in the state, but were ranked #243. They were dropped a 195 spots due to "The total minority enrollment is 8%" Warren Easton ranked #62 in this category, despite ranking #215 in actual test scores.


Does this explain Mandeville’s ranking?
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
You're an Idiot
Member since May 2013
8577 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 5:26 pm to
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Always kinda misleading where you have to test into some of these schools (or be selected or pay some tuition like at LSU Lab) where as Zachary and Dutchtown are truly public schools
Yeah. I know LSU Lab is technically public, but who are they kidding? There is a tuition and they are incredibly selective. Has no business being on a list like this.
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/27/21 at 5:33 pm to
Yeah I’m curious where some of the truly BEST schools in the state rank. I’m sure Newman and Catholic and others would be up there.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12839 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 5:41 pm to
Some of those top public schools would easily still be in the mix.

Some of the top private schools are Country Day, Newman, Jesuit, the Episcopal schools(BR, Acadiana), Catholic BR, St. Joseph's, Loyola prep.
This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 5:42 pm
Posted by Roscoe
Member since Sep 2007
3092 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 5:54 pm to
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Yeah I’m curious where some of the truly BEST schools in the state rank. I’m sure Newman and Catholic and others would be up there.


Isn’t Catholic 15-20k and Newman 20-25k? You charge that much, you better provide a top notch education.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 5:55 pm to
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Yeah I’m curious where some of the truly BEST schools in the state rank. I’m sure Newman and Catholic and others would be up there.



kids that cant get into Ben Franklin or Lusher have to bite the bullet and go to Newman and/or Country Day...

I know kids that couldn't cut it at Ben Franklin or Lusher and transferred to Brother Martin and Jesuit.
This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 5:58 pm
Posted by Roscoe
Member since Sep 2007
3092 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:10 pm to
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Everyone involved right now should be embarrassed. They’re resting on a reputation they can no longer back up. Elementary is fantastic. Middle school has actually improved as my children have gone through. High school needs a lot of work.


Looks like UHigh has one of the lowest college readiness scores on that list. How does that happen at a school that is affiliated with a college, gets state funding, and charges tuition? Sounds like the school better do a major revamping of its program.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20845 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:22 pm to
Hold on, so they are calculating based on minority enrollment and then having to weight the actual scores to be able to rank them? Talk about some mental gymnastics to try and make "diverse" schools look good.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20845 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:24 pm to
I am not sure where they ranked but in the early to mid 2000s they were in the top 10-15 every year in the state.
Posted by Swoozie
Member since Jan 2021
1354 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:31 pm to
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Looks like UHigh has one of the lowest college readiness scores on that list. How does that happen at a school that is affiliated with a college, gets state funding, and charges tuition? Sounds like the school better do a major revamping of its program.

I think that’s a little misleading if you look at how they determine that score. . Uhigh is very committed to the IB Program. It’s very rigorous and many students don’t do full IB. Students can take IB classes without going for the IB diploma but many don’t see the value in them. I have some gaps (in age) between my kids but the universities we looked at didn’t really place any emphasis on IB, especially compared to AP classes.

I think they’re adding more but they haven’t offered nearly as many AP classes compared to similar schools because of the IB Program. Also they’ve had/have some real duds teaching some of those AP and IB classes. I won’t name names or subjects but some are shocking.

They also focus a lot on dual enrollment. That’s one of the more positive things they do, in my opinion.

College readiness was not a concern with my older kids. I am concerned about my youngest and won’t hesitate to leave if there aren’t big changes next year.
This post was edited on 4/27/21 at 6:40 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177328 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:33 pm to
quote:

The rankings are based on 5 factors one of which was-

Math and reading performance rank-
how scores on state assessments compare with US New's expectations given the proportions of students who are black and from low income households.


So a school like Live Oak High School, had the 48th best Math and Reading Scores in the state, but were ranked #243. They were dropped a 195 spots due to "The total minority enrollment is 8%"

Warren Easton ranked #62 in this category, despite ranking #215 in actual test scores.


No doubt the reason Lee High is so high is because of the name change.
Posted by Saucypants
Tulsa, OK
Member since Jul 2019
616 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:39 pm to
My school ain’t ranked....system be rigged
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12453 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:44 pm to
Interesting. My teacher friends in St. Tammany have insisted for years they have the best public school system in the state.
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:45 pm to
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Everyone involved should congratulate themselves on that.


The highly intelligent parents who managed to find each other and copulate should congratulate themselves on that.
Posted by Patio
Member since Mar 2018
208 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:50 pm to
Admissions and administration has unfortunately been “ woke” for the past few years at UHIGH. They seem to be prioritizing quotas over accomplishment.
Posted by Knucklehead
Member since Oct 2018
328 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:52 pm to
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think that’s a little misleading if you look at how they determine that score. . Uhigh is very committed to the IB Program. It’s very rigorous and many students don’t do full IB. Students can take IB classes without going for the IB diploma but many don’t see the value in them. I have some gaps (in age) between my kids but the universities we looked at didn’t really place any emphasis on IB, especially compared to AP classes.

I think they’re adding more but they haven’t offered nearly as many AP classes compared to similar schools because of the IB Program. Also they’ve had/have some real duds teaching some of those AP and IB classes. I won’t name names or subjects but some are shocking.

They also focus a lot on dual enrollment. That’s one of the more positive things they do, in my opinion.

College readiness was not a concern with my older kids. I am concerned about my youngest and won’t hesitate to leave if there aren’t big changes next year.


Wut?
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
19966 posts
Posted on 4/27/21 at 6:52 pm to
This list is racist.

Why aren’t any of the lower income schools listed?
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