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Posted on 6/5/23 at 2:08 pm to Porcine Human
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Wasn't this guy actually a huge a-hole and the "fed up everyday man" narrative is just bs?
I'm sure the local leaders thought he was a huge a-hole.
Doesn't mean much.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 2:09 pm to TutHillTiger
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Why the hell did he kill himself, that’s really the only stupid thing he did. He is a national hero. I think they made a movie about this anyway
Like they wouldn't have lit him up the minute he stuck his head out.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 3:13 pm to BuckyCheese
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I'm sure the local leaders thought he was a huge a-hole.
Doesn't mean much.
Every single person in this thread calling him a hero would absolutely hate to have had him as a neighbor. They'd no doubt be on the OT starting a thread for advice on how to handle the dude.
The guy ran his sewage into an above-ground salvaged concrete truck drum, and when it came time to empty it he would just dump it in irrigation ditches around the area. The town let him do this, out of compliance, for nearly a decade. He deemed it too expensive when he went to the town shortly after buying the land and asked to be hooked up to the sewage. He balked at the cost. The town let him go over 8 years after that doing the nasty shite (literally) he was doing before it tried to force him to hook up.
When given an option that would have alleviated the financial burden he would have faced in hooking up to the town's sewage by way of his sworn enemy offering to allow him to hook up via an easement across his property, good ol' Marv couldn't help himself and told the guy to go frick himself. The offer would have meant very little money coming out of Marv's own pocket. Nope.....because it came from a guy he hated he couldn't allow himself to accept it.
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 6/5/23 at 3:22 pm to LSUSUPERSTAR
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But the government has tanks and F-16s, we mere citizens aren't doing shite with our AK-15s!
if a concrete covered bulldozer was a match for an F-15 we would probably see a lot more of them.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 3:27 pm to LegendInMyMind
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The guy ran his sewage into an above-ground salvaged concrete truck drum, and when it came time to empty it he would just dump it in irrigation ditches around the area.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 3:30 pm to stout
I had never heard of this story until the Netflix documentary. Great documentary. That tank was bad arse.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 3:43 pm to LegendInMyMind
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The guy ran his sewage into an above-ground salvaged concrete truck drum, and when it came time to empty it he would just dump it in irrigation ditches around the area. The town let him do this, out of compliance, for nearly a decade. He deemed it too expensive when he went to the town shortly after buying the land and asked to be hooked up to the sewage. He balked at the cost. The town let him go over 8 years after that doing the nasty shite (literally) he was doing before it tried to force him to hook up.
And that's not to mention his complete hypocrisy with one of his big objections to the concrete plant expansion was that it would be a threat to public health due to dust and runoff contaminating the water supply. Dumping human waste into drainage ditches? Fine. Dust from a concrete plant? No bueno, captain!
Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:40 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:He was a successful business man who didn't seem to have that effect on people prior to moving to Granby. Even there, he had a reputation for being the best welder in the area. He was part of a group that went snowmobiling all the time, and they all liked him and loved the welding work he did for them. Even his ex girlfriend still speaks well of him.
Every single person in this thread calling him a hero would absolutely hate to have had him as a neighbor.
You don't work for the Granby newspaper, do you?
Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:34 pm to blueboy
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He didn't want to sell his land so they fricked him over 10 different ways. But your position seems to be that it's his fault for not selling and letting the corrupt local yokels have their crooked deal.
What’s a good resource for this baws background story? I never knew about any of the talk about land deals and crooked politicians until this thread.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:50 pm to SammyTiger
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if a concrete covered bulldozer was a match for an F-15 we would probably see a lot more of them.
First time I've heard that the bulldozer was covered in concrete.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:52 pm to idlewatcher
quote:I've just seen the Tread movie and another documentary, read a lot of articles on it, as well as listening to his long audio 'manifesto' for lack of a better term.
What’s a good resource for this baws background story?
The building permit issued to Cody D denied that it was for a concrete plant, even though it was. Either way, when the town suddenly decided to legally require the sewer hookup, Marv was blocked. Cody D wouldn't allow him to cross his new property and Marv couldn't go through the property to the south because the town had secretly zoned it in 1998, preventing him from going through. The zoning was illegal, but the law said that since Marv didn't protest it within 30 days (he never knew about it and was not notified), the zoning became legal.
So they all fricked him, and the town fined him every day, knowing he had no options. Their hope was that he'd be forced to sell to them, which he normally would have been.
Instead, Killdozer.
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:55 pm to stout
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I feel like the older I get the more I understand the dude
Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:59 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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First time I've heard that the bulldozer was covered in concrete.
He created what was essentially composite armor sandwiched within steel.
I chronicled the whole event
Killdozer
Well Marvin was a welder, just a humble working man,
In Granby, Colorado, where he’d make his final stand,
So now I’ll tell his tale so heed the lesson that he brings
“Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things”
Killdozer! Killdo-o-ozer!
You know sometimes a man he just refuses to surrender
Killdozer! Killdo-o-ozer!
when you mess with such a man he’ll give you something to remember
He owned a couple acres and a shop to make repairs,
Not a man to wrong another without cause,’
But some bureaucrats decided that he wasn’t good enough,
And so they destroyed his livelihood with laws,
They had finished Marvin’s business,
Left him no way in or out,
By the red tape one more common man screwed over,
But inside Heemeyer spied unfinished business of his own,
When with vengeance on his mind he eyed his Dozer
Killdozer! Killdo-o-ozer!
You know sometimes a man he just refuses to surrender
Killdozer! Killdo-o-ozer!
when you mess with such a man he’ll give you something to remember
For 18 months he built it,
Cement sandwiched within steel,
A cocoon of revenge filled with screens and guns,
With an armor plated engine,
This behemoth with a blade,
When complete it weighed in over 60 tons
On fourth of June he climbed into his tomb,
And sealed it shut,
Greased the sides so none could climb this beast of metal,
There was no door, created for it,
He just smashed right through the walls,
His legend roared as to the floor he pushed the pedal,
Killdozer! Killdo-o-ozer!
You know sometimes a man he just refuses to surrender
Killdozer! Killdo-o-ozer!
when you mess with such a man he’ll give you something to remember
The plant that caused it all, was first to fall, and the the town hall,
Then the dens of all the men who’d done him wrong,
When the cops, they tried to stop it,
bombs and guns could not prevail,
They all failed for the Killdozer was too strong,
Bridge:
Then to challenge him in the road,
On a metal beast of his own,
Sat the man who had used the machine of state,
To take Heemeyer’s Land,
But Now Killdozer Stands,
Two Treads Driven By Fate
Banjos and fiddles duel
And though some may call him crazy,
Sometimes every normal man,
Feels the urge to hoist the black flag,
And put spit upon his hands,
In his defense,
No innocents,
Were harmed in his destruction,
He met his end,
Buried within,
A tomb of his construction,
So if you’re feeling small,
Then just recall, And give some thanks,
When they step upon the little man,
Somewhere killdozer cranks!,
Killdozer! Killdo-o-ozer!
You know sometimes a man he just refuses to surrender,
Killdozer! Killdo-o-o-ozer!
When you mess with such a man he’ll give you something to remember
“Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things”
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:02 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:The entire adjacent neighborhood objected, not just Marvin. There were several town meetings about it.
one of his big objections to the concrete plant expansion was that it would be a threat to public health due to dust and runoff
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:07 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
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Seems like the cost of a bulldozer and all that steel may have been enough to pay whatever the septic hookup cost
If he had the dozer and all the steel was scrap in his boneyard? Zero cost on the killdozer vs. whatever bullshite price the sanitary dept wanted to inflate= disgruntled citizen
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:29 pm to LegendInMyMind
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And that's not to mention his complete hypocrisy with one of his big objections to the concrete plant expansion was that it would be a threat to public health due to dust and runoff contaminating the water supply. Dumping human waste into drainage ditches? Fine. Dust from a concrete plant? No bueno, captain!
You need to go back and do more research. The sequence of events you are stating are not true.
Part of the "deal" he was offered was to sell off land at less than it was worth so it wasn't a "no cost" deal as you purport.
I'm not claiming Heemeyer was 100% in the right, but the "good ole boy" network absolutely made an effort to frick him over.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:35 pm to blueboy
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blueboy
Thanks baw
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:45 pm to AndyCBR
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Part of the "deal" he was offered was to sell off land at less than it was worth so it wasn't a "no cost" deal as you purport.
Nope.
Before that offer, after the concrete guy bought the adjoining land for expansion, the plant owner offered to give Marv an easement across his property in order to tie into the sewer which would have greatly cut the cost of the hookup. In exchange, Marv would drop his suit against the plant owner and the city/town. Marv told him to go frick himself.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:47 pm to blueboy
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The entire adjacent neighborhood objected, not just Marvin. There were several town meetings about it.
Marvin was the loudest of them by far, and the plant owner met every demand they made.
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