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re: Today is the 19 year anniversary of the 'Killdozer'
Posted on 6/4/23 at 11:26 pm to AndyCBR
Posted on 6/4/23 at 11:26 pm to AndyCBR
The fact every elected official in our country doesn't go to bed each night in fear of being Mussolini'd or Killdozered is an abject failure on our part.
This post was edited on 6/4/23 at 11:49 pm
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 11:36 pm to stout
Posted on 6/4/23 at 11:38 pm to stout
A true hero.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 12:01 am to stout
Heemeyer was an idiot, not a hero.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 5:42 am to LegendInMyMind
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LegendInMyMind
Checks out.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:12 am to stout
Dude wasn’t a hero - he was a fricking a-hole who had multiple chances to get out of several self created frickups. Killdozer itself is awesome but the myth around him being some ordinary man pushed to his limits is bullshite.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:38 am to stout
I've been to Granby maybe 15-20 times, starting back in March of 92. This is what I was wearing yesterday. I've yet to wear it in town, but I love killdozer talks with locals. It's a trade when they want florida man stories, from a florida man 
Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:25 am to stout
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:32 am to stout
While I admire his fortitude I'm not sure he had a real plan for the end.
Eventually he would have ran out of diesel and he would just be sitting in a steel can. He needed an escape plan and I don't know if he had one.
Eventually he would have ran out of diesel and he would just be sitting in a steel can. He needed an escape plan and I don't know if he had one.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:40 am to SantaFe
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Eventually he would have ran out of diesel and he would just be sitting in a steel can. He needed an escape plan and I don't know if he had one.
There was no escape. He sealed himself in an armored sarcophagus and smashed his way into history.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 10:59 am to LongueCarabine
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Checks out.
If you think that making every decision against your own best interest just to spite a bunch of people you hate so much makes one a hero, then....sure he's a hero. If you believe hating those people so much that you obsess over them to the point that you kill yourself....sure, he's a hero.
Heemeyer was given an out at many turns (more than one that would have seen him make a considerable profit off of his land and business). He refused every single opportunity given him and instead decided to be a contrary a-hole to everyone involved. Newsflash......people are shite. Compounding their shittiness by making endless poor decisions doesn't make you a hero. It makes you an idiot who is terrible at business.
He was a damn good welder, though. I'll give him that.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 1:08 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Heemeyer was given an out at many turns (more than one that would have seen him make a considerable profit off of his land and business). He refused every single opportunity given him
Huh? He didn't want to sell his land so they fricked him over 10 different ways. But your position seems to be that it's his fault for not selling and letting the corrupt local yokels have their crooked deal. Weak fricking take, man.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 1:11 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
Running county water just to my property and NOT all the way to my house cost nearly $3K. Add to that the cost of laying pipe for nearly 1000’ to the houses from the road and it was nearly $5K.
I’m not condoning his actions, but I understand them.
I’m not condoning his actions, but I understand them.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 1:12 pm to blueboy
And though some may call him crazy,
Sometimes every normal man,
Feels the urge to hoist the black flag,
And put spit upon his hands,
In his defense,
No innocents,
Were harmed in his destruction,
He met his end,
Buried within,
A tomb of his construction,
So if you’re feeling small,
Then just recall, And give some thanks,
When they step upon the little man,
Somewhere killdozer cranks!,
Killdozer! Killdo-o-ozer!
You know sometimes a man he just refuses to surrender,
Killdozer! Killdo-o-o-ozer!
When you mess with such a man he’ll give you something to remember
“Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things”
Sometimes every normal man,
Feels the urge to hoist the black flag,
And put spit upon his hands,
In his defense,
No innocents,
Were harmed in his destruction,
He met his end,
Buried within,
A tomb of his construction,
So if you’re feeling small,
Then just recall, And give some thanks,
When they step upon the little man,
Somewhere killdozer cranks!,
Killdozer! Killdo-o-ozer!
You know sometimes a man he just refuses to surrender,
Killdozer! Killdo-o-o-ozer!
When you mess with such a man he’ll give you something to remember
“Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things”
Posted on 6/5/23 at 1:16 pm to fr33manator
Today he could have detroyed one building, given up, then done talk shows, news, youtube. Made some good money from all that maybe
Posted on 6/5/23 at 1:24 pm to stout
quote:
Why are you trying to make it a pissing match?
Because Kafka likes posting irrelevant facts in an attempt to seem intelligent and/or educated.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 1:40 pm to blueboy
quote:
Huh? He didn't want to sell his land so they fricked him over 10 different ways. But your position seems to be that it's his fault for not selling and letting the corrupt local yokels have their crooked deal.
That's a rather simplified version. The concrete plant owner even offered to pay for his sewage hookup in exchange for Marvin dropping the lawsuit (one of who knows how many he had) against him. Marvin told him to go frick himself. Marvin threw away more money on mostly frivolous lawsuits filed out of spite than all the demands the town made would have cost him.
If he didn't want to sell his land, why did he put it up for sale? Why did he decline the first offer from the concrete plant owner and then raise his asking price only to decline the next offer at his new price? He was a contrarian simply for the sake of being a contrarian.
The guy was a nut and an idiot. Ignoring that fact is doing nothing more than excusing his actions that had as much to do with the position he was in as the actions of the "town".
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 6/5/23 at 1:51 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:Not really. He bought the property the concrete guy wanted for 42k, and the latter turned down Marvin's offer to sell at 60k. After Marvin built his shop and did a lot of other work, they offered 250k. He said 375k and they refused, not him. Then, they filed shite under his nose that screwed him over before he even knew what was going on.
That's a rather simplified version.
Then, they started building on his property, using their connections to get bullshite 'permission; to do so. Marvin's court filings were to combat the things they were doing to him.
Not sure how any of that makes him a 'nut and an idiot.' He started none of this. They did.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 1:53 pm to blueboy
quote:
Not really. He bought the property the concrete guy wanted for 42k, and the latter turned down Marvin's offer to sell at 60k. After Marvin built his shop and did a lot of other work, they offered 250k. He said 375k and they refused, not him. Then, they filed shite under his nose that screwed him over before he even knew what was going on.
Then, they started building on his property, using their connections to get bullshite 'permission; to do so. Marvin's court filings were to combat the things they were doing to him.
Not sure how any of that makes him a 'nut and an idiot.' He started none of this. They did.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 1:56 pm to LegendInMyMind
It's all public record, dipshit.
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