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re: Titanic tourist submarine goes missing

Posted on 6/22/23 at 1:58 pm to
Posted by Kansas City King
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 1:58 pm to
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The failure came with not monitoring the sub after those dives.

Bingo.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 1:59 pm to
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The failure came with not monitoring the sub after those dives. Any submersible working at those depths will be subject to deterioration that can lead to catastrophic failure....literally any of them. That's why scrutiny is needed after each dive. The accumulation takes its toll.



People who have been on working ships or even just worked around salt water ought to understand the wear and tear just the effect of salt water submersion, UV radiation, exposure to the elements, storms, etc. on any vessel.

So, folks, imagine that and multiply it by about 25 or 30 times for a submersible. Now, add in the fact that if a surface vessel suffers a power failure, it sits on the surface and waits for rescue. Might even have backup power for life support systems and, while being adrift carries its own risks, these failures that do not compromise the hull are almost always survivable.

A submersible that loses the ability to move must either:

1. Be nearly immediately rescued (or shallow enough to be rescued relatively quickly)

2. Be able to complete an emergency surface maneuver, or

3. Reach crush depth/run out of air

It's that straightforward.
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Xignals
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:00 pm to
Damn it is hard to believe they were not inspecting that thing after every dive.

When it imploded would there have been any sign of that at the surface?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:01 pm to
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I need to stop reading this thread. I’ve had My Heart Will Go On stuck in my head for a few days now.

I've had the classic "Under the Sea" from The Little Mermaid stuck in mine. I sing it in the voice of Sebastian.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
95563 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:02 pm to
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When it imploded would there have been any sign of that at the surface?



Unlikely at that depth and certainly not very far away. Obviously there was a pocket of air that would have surfaced but the pressure is such, those bubbles would have been very tiny.
Posted by mjthe
Virginia
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:02 pm to
Heart Will Go On is a banger - just got to load up the rock/metal remixes and covers
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:03 pm to
Coast Guard just confirmed it's the missing submersible they found... case closed
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:04 pm to
Have they confirmed whether a sea creature chewed up and spit out the sub?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75038 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:04 pm to
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Legendinhismind has figured it out.

Where did I say that?

Why didn't you dispute my actual post? You know the part that included the FACT that this sub made multiple dives to this depth prior to this one? You know....the FACT that supports it being an issue of monitoring and maintenance rather than that of carbon fiber not being a viable submersible material?
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 2:05 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:06 pm to
Oh damn, they actually found it already?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:07 pm to
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but instead he was a cheap arse billionaire who risked people’s lives for what amounted to pocket change.


A passenger was a billionaire. The owner and operator of the sub was not.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:08 pm to
One would think that the maintenance schedule for something under this much stress would be off the charts intensive and detailed.

Instead, it just seemed to be "yep, it came back up again son let's send it back down".

fricking idiot of a CEO.
Posted by jfan244888
Soda City, SC
Member since Jul 2021
1129 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:08 pm to
Im guessing it was metal fatigue from all the dives.

You see it in a bunch of plane crashes.

Im guessing CEObro didn't want/see the need to have the scanning equipment necessary to see it with a microscope.

Instead he slapped it like a used car salesman and full sent it with people in it every chance he got.
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Xignals
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Member since Nov 2013
1666 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:09 pm to
They found it this morning if not earlier. Wanted to notify the families I assume is the reason for not releasing info earlier.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
37398 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:10 pm to
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A passenger was a billionaire. The owner and operator of the sub was not.


Yep, and it was losing money even at $250k per head. People blindly assume that’s a lot of money but it’s really not all things considered for how much money should have gone into the R&D and build and maintenance of it…and there are only a couple of passengers per trip and not that many successful trips per season

Since both comms were lost at the exact same time it was pretty obvious instant implosion was the most likely scenario, glad it’s confirmed and they didn’t really have to suffer
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 2:11 pm
Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:11 pm to
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eople in the thread were complaining about how taxpayers are picking up the tab. In this case these baws have/will (estate tax) pay a very substantial amount of taxes


Why would foreigners pay US estate taxes?
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 2:11 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:11 pm to
If you've ever looked at maintenance hours vs flight hours for fighter jets, that'll give you an idea of what SHOULD be done.

It's many orders of magnitude more maintenance time than flight time.
Posted by toosleaux
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:12 pm to
So what was the banging noises then?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:13 pm to
Ah ok, cool.

Can't wait for a detailed report of what happened.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15077 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:13 pm to
Did they find a part? Or the whole thing?
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