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re: Titanic tourist submarine goes missing
Posted on 6/22/23 at 1:58 pm to LegendInMyMind
Posted on 6/22/23 at 1:58 pm to LegendInMyMind
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The failure came with not monitoring the sub after those dives.
Bingo.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 1:59 pm to LegendInMyMind
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The failure came with not monitoring the sub after those dives. Any submersible working at those depths will be subject to deterioration that can lead to catastrophic failure....literally any of them. That's why scrutiny is needed after each dive. The accumulation takes its toll.
People who have been on working ships or even just worked around salt water ought to understand the wear and tear just the effect of salt water submersion, UV radiation, exposure to the elements, storms, etc. on any vessel.
So, folks, imagine that and multiply it by about 25 or 30 times for a submersible. Now, add in the fact that if a surface vessel suffers a power failure, it sits on the surface and waits for rescue. Might even have backup power for life support systems and, while being adrift carries its own risks, these failures that do not compromise the hull are almost always survivable.
A submersible that loses the ability to move must either:
1. Be nearly immediately rescued (or shallow enough to be rescued relatively quickly)
2. Be able to complete an emergency surface maneuver, or
3. Reach crush depth/run out of air
It's that straightforward.
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:00 pm to Kansas City King
Damn it is hard to believe they were not inspecting that thing after every dive.
When it imploded would there have been any sign of that at the surface?
When it imploded would there have been any sign of that at the surface?
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:01 pm to swamp frog
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I need to stop reading this thread. I’ve had My Heart Will Go On stuck in my head for a few days now.
I've had the classic "Under the Sea" from The Little Mermaid stuck in mine. I sing it in the voice of Sebastian.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:02 pm to Xignals
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When it imploded would there have been any sign of that at the surface?
Unlikely at that depth and certainly not very far away. Obviously there was a pocket of air that would have surfaced but the pressure is such, those bubbles would have been very tiny.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:02 pm to LegendInMyMind
Heart Will Go On is a banger - just got to load up the rock/metal remixes and covers 
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:03 pm to mjthe
Coast Guard just confirmed it's the missing submersible they found... case closed
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:04 pm to mjthe
Have they confirmed whether a sea creature chewed up and spit out the sub?
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:04 pm to cubsfan5150
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Legendinhismind has figured it out.
Where did I say that?
Why didn't you dispute my actual post? You know the part that included the FACT that this sub made multiple dives to this depth prior to this one? You know....the FACT that supports it being an issue of monitoring and maintenance rather than that of carbon fiber not being a viable submersible material?
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:06 pm to chRxis
Oh damn, they actually found it already?
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:07 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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but instead he was a cheap arse billionaire who risked people’s lives for what amounted to pocket change.
A passenger was a billionaire. The owner and operator of the sub was not.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:08 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
One would think that the maintenance schedule for something under this much stress would be off the charts intensive and detailed.
Instead, it just seemed to be "yep, it came back up again son let's send it back down".
fricking idiot of a CEO.
Instead, it just seemed to be "yep, it came back up again son let's send it back down".
fricking idiot of a CEO.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:08 pm to Ace Midnight
Im guessing it was metal fatigue from all the dives.
You see it in a bunch of plane crashes.
Im guessing CEObro didn't want/see the need to have the scanning equipment necessary to see it with a microscope.
Instead he slapped it like a used car salesman and full sent it with people in it every chance he got.
You see it in a bunch of plane crashes.
Im guessing CEObro didn't want/see the need to have the scanning equipment necessary to see it with a microscope.
Instead he slapped it like a used car salesman and full sent it with people in it every chance he got.
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:09 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
They found it this morning if not earlier. Wanted to notify the families I assume is the reason for not releasing info earlier.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:10 pm to stout
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A passenger was a billionaire. The owner and operator of the sub was not.
Yep, and it was losing money even at $250k per head. People blindly assume that’s a lot of money but it’s really not all things considered for how much money should have gone into the R&D and build and maintenance of it…and there are only a couple of passengers per trip and not that many successful trips per season
Since both comms were lost at the exact same time it was pretty obvious instant implosion was the most likely scenario, glad it’s confirmed and they didn’t really have to suffer
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:11 pm to thejuiceisloose
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eople in the thread were complaining about how taxpayers are picking up the tab. In this case these baws have/will (estate tax) pay a very substantial amount of taxes
Why would foreigners pay US estate taxes?
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:11 pm to VABuckeye
If you've ever looked at maintenance hours vs flight hours for fighter jets, that'll give you an idea of what SHOULD be done.
It's many orders of magnitude more maintenance time than flight time.
It's many orders of magnitude more maintenance time than flight time.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:12 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
So what was the banging noises then?
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:13 pm to Xignals
Ah ok, cool.
Can't wait for a detailed report of what happened.
Can't wait for a detailed report of what happened.
Posted on 6/22/23 at 2:13 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Did they find a part? Or the whole thing?
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