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re: Time for Louisiana to do away with TOPS
Posted on 1/15/20 at 4:11 pm to Oilfieldbiology
Posted on 1/15/20 at 4:11 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:
Ok. So put an income cap on it, but make it more difficult. 2.5 and 20 is not college material at all
You would be surprised. Source: me.
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 4:12 pm to danilo
NOTHING is free. Someone, in this case Tennessee state government (aka Tennessee taxpayers) are paying for the community college tuition costs.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 4:13 pm to danilo
quote:
Correct. We need to make college more expensive for Louisiana families
No, we need to get the right kids in college and the right kids in trade schools.
If everyone has a college degree, then a college degree is worthless. Not everyone is equally intelligent or is equally capable of earning a living with his hands. Again, this Michelle Obama crap about "every child needs a college degree" is bullshite. We need to steer kids towards what they are geared to do out of high school instead of just sending them all to college and see who flunks out and who doesn't.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 4:14 pm to danilo
2.5 and a 20 is not difficult nor is it any kind of accomplishment. It is literally not skipping school too often.
You should not be rewarded for doing the bare minimum.
You should not be rewarded for doing the bare minimum.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 4:15 pm to theenemy
quote:
So if we require all TOPS graduates to stay in state for 4 years....is there enough jobs in Louisiana to hire them?
If there isn't enough jobs, should Louisiana taxpayers pay to educate Texas's future workforce?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 4:19 pm to Bedhog
quote:
graduates are spending our money and going elsewhere.
Easy to fix. If you accept TOPS upon graduation you must work in Louisiana the same number of years that you accepted TOPS.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 4:52 pm to REB BEER
quote:
If everyone has a college degree, then a college degree is worthless. Not everyone is equally intelligent or is equally capable of earning a living with his hands. Again, this Michelle Obama crap about "every child needs a college degree" is bull shite. We need to steer kids towards what they are geared to do out of high school instead of just sending them all to college and see who flunks out and who doesn't.
I agree with you in theory. The issue is there isnt a flawless way to determine what somebody's true ability is. We could take the German approach to careers. The issue is that everyone should have access to college so long as they meet merit based requirements, even if its later in life.
People change overtime. Plenty of people change their careers 4 to 5 times before they settle. We need a system that determines your strengths by the end of 9th grade. Focuses on them exclusively until graduation. And then offer options to test in certain programs for collegiate/vocational schools.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 4:58 pm to Ponchy Tiger
quote:
Easy to fix. If you accept TOPS upon graduation you must work in Louisiana the same number of years that you accepted TOPS.
I'm going to address you and the previous comment regarding state labor participation.
It's not simply a matter of "offering a job in field". In most of Louisiana it's an issue of having enough jobs to hire graduates period. Many places pay low wages and they will be flooded with applicants who have no formal education (vocational or otherwise) and be more willingly to work the hours.
The state economy is an uncontrollable factor. Louisiana simply doesnt have enough jobs to hire even our higher end graduates.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:05 pm to volod
And the program was created to keep la kids from going out of state for college
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:50 pm to Bedhog
I always chuckle when the hardcore conservatives love them some tops.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 5:59 pm to Bedhog
A complete overhaul is needed, not a do away.
Everyone needs to keep in mind:
-the graduates who earn a 2.5 gpa + 20 ACT aren't going to/getting accepted to LSU, ULL, La Tech, Centenary, etc. They're heading to any of the smaller state or comm. colleges.
-the graduates who end up staying in state contribute to the tax pool, so we need them to fill as many in-state schools that we can
Overhaul:
-recipients have to remain in state post-graduation for 5 years.
-if you leave early = repay entire balance
-recipients MUST major in a Business/STEM/CM/Medical field (if you drop/change majors outside of this requirement = repay entire balance)
Everyone needs to keep in mind:
-the graduates who earn a 2.5 gpa + 20 ACT aren't going to/getting accepted to LSU, ULL, La Tech, Centenary, etc. They're heading to any of the smaller state or comm. colleges.
-the graduates who end up staying in state contribute to the tax pool, so we need them to fill as many in-state schools that we can
Overhaul:
-recipients have to remain in state post-graduation for 5 years.
-if you leave early = repay entire balance
-recipients MUST major in a Business/STEM/CM/Medical field (if you drop/change majors outside of this requirement = repay entire balance)
Posted on 1/15/20 at 6:11 pm to Bedhog
Students who earn TOPS actually earn the scholarship by putting forth the effort in school, unlike many welfare recipients who are capable of working , but choose not to.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 1/15/20 at 6:14 pm to choupiquesushi
No it wasnt
Posted on 1/15/20 at 6:19 pm to Oilfieldbiology
No it wasn’t.
Read this
www.taylorplan.com/about/history
Read this
www.taylorplan.com/about/history
Posted on 1/15/20 at 6:21 pm to KiwiHead
Thank you.
Someone who finally knows why it was actually created.
Someone who finally knows why it was actually created.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 6:32 pm to LigerFan
quote:
b. Must remain a resident of Louisiana for 5 years after graduation
I agree in principle, but with our brain drain & economy this ultimately just results in more college educated people with either no job or dead end jobs and then once the period is over they can't find a job in their field because they haven't been in it for too long. Until you fix the brain drain the only thing that should happen is raising the standards to get TOPS, except for those going to trade school.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 7:44 pm to Bedhog
Because TOPS is not new money, it takes funding AWAY higher education.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 7:46 pm to Bedhog
I hate tops
Posted on 1/15/20 at 7:53 pm to danilo
quote:No, we need to make college more exclusive for intelligent individuals.
We need to make college more expensive for Louisiana families
Posted on 1/15/20 at 9:14 pm to Bedhog
It is funny before Tops young adults still went to college.
Some young adults worked while in school, used a GI Bill which they earned by serving in the military, student loans, or grants.
Some young adults were lucky and their parents paid for their education.
Just because Braxton makes C avg grades it does not mean we should pay for his education after high school.
Some young adults worked while in school, used a GI Bill which they earned by serving in the military, student loans, or grants.
Some young adults were lucky and their parents paid for their education.
Just because Braxton makes C avg grades it does not mean we should pay for his education after high school.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 9:16 pm
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