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Posted on 2/12/14 at 12:28 pm to Dead End
so the perp was shot in the head?
He moved around a lot afterward.
He moved around a lot afterward.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 12:34 pm to PSU2LSU
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Yes the officer knew exactly what to do in that situation. I can't say I would have known to do the same thing. But I do now..
Lots of good information in this video. Notice how the office turned to his side where his gun is away from the perp. The thug thinks he is emptying out his pockets for money. Then, the officer pulls the gun and points it as close to the criminal as possible.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:17 pm to Bleeding purple
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Feel free to post the data.
What data?
Statistics will prove his argument incorrect.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:24 pm to Dead End
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What data?
Statistics will prove his argument incorrect.
It wasn't an argument. It was speculation on my part about one point. My "argument" is the same as yours.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:33 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Listen, I'm on the same side of this issue as you are
I understand that, and that is why I commented. People who are clearly on the other side of the issue are for the most part lost causes and debating the finer points of an issue with them results in rapid deflection and name calling.
I agree that accidental firearm shootings and deaths are tragic. One interesting piece of data nearly universally omitted from reporting is legal ownership of the gun. Although I will not make a statement of certainty, I believe that many of the accidental shootings occur in homes where the firearm is illegally possessed.
The data from CDC FROM 1999-2010 compared with a single year of FBI crime statistics indicates that you are 38.2 times more likely to be the victim of a violent crime than you are to be killed by a firearm. Further you are 773 times more likely to be the victim of a violent crime than you are to die of an unintentional firearm discharge if you are under the age of 20.
LINK
LINK
and for those that think we should rely on the authorities
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The 2012 statistics show that the estimated rate of violent crime was 386.9 offenses per 100,000 inhabitants, and the property crime rate was 2,859.2 offenses per 100,000 inhabitants.
Yet per FBI statistics for the same year
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The arrest rate for violent crime was 166.3 per 100,000 inhabitants
That is nearly 2.5 more likely to be the victim of a violent crime than it is for the criminal to be brought to justice after the fact. Couple that with the relatively weak penal system in this country that allows criminals back on the street too quickly and too often and any rational person can see the need for additional protection.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:39 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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My "argument" is the same as yours.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 2:41 pm to Dead End
I can't wait for Obama and Company to demand the Chicago PD remove this guys badge.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:22 pm to PSU2LSU
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Really surprised he was able to get a head shot. I would have shot from my hip assuming he pulled from his hip holster.
Interesting that he was able to raise the gun that high without the kid reacting. It shows you the difference between trained and untrained.
i was thinking the same. wonder if the thugs gun even had any rounds in it
Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:53 pm to SabiDojo
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Notice how the office turned to his side where his gun is away from the perp. The thug thinks he is emptying out his pockets for money. Then, the officer pulls the gun and points it as close to the criminal as possible.
And he swiped the gun away from him as he came around. Very smart. Although this officer sure had a lot of training, a little bit of training can go a long way.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 3:57 pm to eyepooted
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Message Posted by eyepooted I wish he would have killed the other 2
Really? You think you'd be happy to kill three teenagers?
I'm ALL for self defense, but it's monstrous to celebrate shite like this.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 4:03 pm to uway
It's one thing to be packing heat, but not every pistol packing desperado is going to be able to remain calm and react when they have a gun in their face. I hope I don't ever have to find out. That dude had cajones.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 4:08 pm to uway
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Really? You think you'd be happy to kill three teenagers?
I'm ALL for self defense, but it's monstrous to celebrate shite like this.
It really isn't. The other two now have the potential to commit more crimes affecting other innocent people. And it's not a stretch to say it's all but a certainty that's going to happen. Better to kill the real monsters of the world than have them prey upon the masses. I know I haven't come out and said that I hoped he got the other two, but I think there's a very valid reason to feel that way.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 4:10 pm to uway
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but it's monstrous to celebrate shite like this.
No, stop being a fricking pansy. It's not monstrous to celebrate people defending themselves. 
Posted on 2/12/14 at 4:12 pm to Mo Jeaux
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No, stop being a fricking pansy. It's not monstrous to celebrate people defending themselves.
truth,
Posted on 2/12/14 at 4:14 pm to BigSquirrel
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It really isn't. The other two now have the potential to commit more crimes affecting other innocent people. And it's not a stretch to say it's all but a certainty that's going to happen. Better to kill the real monsters of the world than have them prey upon the masses. I know I haven't come out and said that I hoped he got the other two, but I think there's a very valid reason to feel that way.
New term...it was a "common good killing".
Posted on 2/12/14 at 4:16 pm to Mo Jeaux
Great job by this officer. They certainly picked the wrong target. This kid made a choice to Rob avid steal from a hard working person who knew how to defend himself.
I wish Jesse Jackson and his like would spend more time saving these kids before they are hurt or killed than wanting to jump in after they are killed.
I wish Jesse Jackson and his like would spend more time saving these kids before they are hurt or killed than wanting to jump in after they are killed.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 4:21 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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New term...it was a "common good killing".
I like it. Good work.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 4:25 pm to CaptainsWafer
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Too bad the other two didn't have their heads filled with lead
FIFY.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 4:38 pm to Mo Jeaux
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No, stop being a fricking pansy. It's not monstrous to celebrate people defending themselves.
Doing what needs to be done to protect yourself and other innocents is good and should be celebrated.
If you're cutting joyful backflips while watching a man's (whose worst crime as far as you know is attempted armed robbery) life bleed out on the pavement, something's wrong with you.
And I might go as far to say that you are part of the reason our 2nd Amendment rights are being threatened by the true pansies, i.e. those that, from an unwillingness to see the world as it is and realize that they are responsible for their own protection, convince themselves things would be safer if good people were disarmed.
It makes gun owners look crazy when so many of them get giddy about the idea of "filling thugs heads with lead."
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