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re: Those with boys in Cub Scouts, have a few questions
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:25 am to SteelerBravesDawg
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:25 am to SteelerBravesDawg
I'm not saying anything about your or your daughter. One of the girls was the best of the group.
My comment was that several boys lost interest when the girls came in.
My comment was that several boys lost interest when the girls came in.
This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 8:43 am
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:28 am to meeple
As everyone has said, it all depends on the pack and the leaders.
My advice is to wait until 4th grade and let him join then or skip Cubs completely. Cub Scouts (in general) sucks as far as program goes and kids get burnt out by the time they cross over into a troop. 99% of kids who go through Cubs don't retain any of the basic scout skills they'll need when they get to a troop.
These days the Cub program's main function is to boost enrollment and re-charter fees for the council and very little is actually put into the program outside of a few "fun days" here and there. And with all of the restrictions put on Cub Scouts, pack activities are hard to pull off.
Having said all of that, if you have a good pack, it can be good experience. The problem is there are few packs ran by someone who is interested in teaching kids basic scout skills. Too often it's someone who was guilted into doing it and they do a half arse job.
My advice is to wait until 4th grade and let him join then or skip Cubs completely. Cub Scouts (in general) sucks as far as program goes and kids get burnt out by the time they cross over into a troop. 99% of kids who go through Cubs don't retain any of the basic scout skills they'll need when they get to a troop.
These days the Cub program's main function is to boost enrollment and re-charter fees for the council and very little is actually put into the program outside of a few "fun days" here and there. And with all of the restrictions put on Cub Scouts, pack activities are hard to pull off.
Having said all of that, if you have a good pack, it can be good experience. The problem is there are few packs ran by someone who is interested in teaching kids basic scout skills. Too often it's someone who was guilted into doing it and they do a half arse job.
This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 8:29 am
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:33 am to meeple
When it's all said and done, they will indoctrinate you boy and he will start identifying as something other than a boy. You can then have your child taken away from you when you go against those people in not wanting to transition your boy. In the end, you will have no one to blame but yourself. Good job dad
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:40 am to meeple
My son loved the scouts, but that was 10 years ago, don't really know what it's like now with all the changes.
Like someone said, talk to the troop leader to find out how active their troop is. Go to the meetings.
Side note: my son's pine wood derby car won 1st all his three years in scouts.
Like someone said, talk to the troop leader to find out how active their troop is. Go to the meetings.
Side note: my son's pine wood derby car won 1st all his three years in scouts.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:56 am to LilDeuceCoupe
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My comment was that several boys lost interest when the girls came in.
I think this is valid in Scouts more than Cubs. Cubs absolutely do not care as long as they see their friends. Having watched Girl and Boy troops grow, girls absolutely take over leadership and the boys let them when they get older.
I am not sure how I feel about coed troops, there is already pilot programs exploring coed troops. Our troop will probably go coed next year. I hope we structure it where the girls and boys build their own patrols. There needs to be some separation where the boys and girls can grow on their own.
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Side note: my son's pine wood derby car won 1st all his three years in scouts.
We would destroy you,
This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 8:58 am
Posted on 8/28/24 at 8:58 am to Dam Guide
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I am not sure how I feel about coed troops
We probably wouldn't do it.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:00 am to LilDeuceCoupe
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I'm not saying anything about your or your daughter. One of the girls was the best of the group.
No need to get defensive.
Just giving you my experience.
A lot depends on troop leadership.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:01 am to Salmon
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We probably wouldn't do it.
It requires a vote by the troop to do it. So the boys themselves have to ok it, not the adults. Which is good.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:01 am to meeple
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Local den/pack has women leaders, and they have boys of their own. Is this common these days? I was in cub scouts 30 years ago and men were leaders then. Dads are still involved at the den level, and dads are also leaders at the pack level.
Moms were more involved in the Cub Scouts while dads were more involved in the Boy Scouts when I was a kid.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:01 am to Oneforthemoney
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When it's all said and done, they will indoctrinate you boy and he will start identifying as something other than a boy. You can then have your child taken away from you when you go against those people in not wanting to transition your boy. In the end, you will have no one to blame but yourself. Good job dad
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:02 am to Dam Guide
We have 2 very large and active boy troops in our area. We only have 1 girl troop. We currently have about 20 girls.
As long as our numbers stay strong, I don't think they would go coed, unless the girls numbers just dropped significantly.
As long as our numbers stay strong, I don't think they would go coed, unless the girls numbers just dropped significantly.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:05 am to Oneforthemoney
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When it's all said and done, they will indoctrinate you boy and he will start identifying as something other than a boy. You can then have your child taken away from you when you go against those people in not wanting to transition your boy. In the end, you will have no one to blame but yourself. Good job dad
So, the identity and morals of the pack or troop pretty much comes from the charter org, basically the church usually running the pack or troop. Which makes me wonder where you choose to go to church.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:09 am to Salmon
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We have 2 very large and active boy troops in our area. We only have 1 girl troop. We currently have about 20 girls.
As long as our numbers stay strong, I don't think they would go coed, unless the girls numbers just dropped significantly.
Our girl troops struggle here. There are 2 or 3 very small ones, there is a bit larger one that has an all girl pack associated with it, but the leader is bit out there and fundamentalist for my taste. I moved over to the pack I am currently in because the scoutmaster wanted to form a girls troop the same time mine crosses over and I wanted to help him. With the pilot program and going full coed in Jan 2026, he now just wants to pursue a coed troop instead.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:11 am to meeple
quote:my mom was a den leader along with another friend’s dad
Local den/pack has women leaders,
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:29 am to meeple
Buddy of mine in south AL sent this picture of the cub scouts booth at their meet the teacher day.
Act accordingly.
Act accordingly.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:35 am to meeple
For Cub Scouts a parent has to stay with the child at all the meetings and campouts. If an idea comes up you don’t agree with - take it up with the leaders or have a conversation with your child.
My husband and I have always been very involved in Scouting - we were cubmasters, ran dens, volunteered at summer camp, I had a Girl Scout troop for my oldest , did all the crazy trainings for Girl & cub scouts. Girl Scouts sucks btw (instead of going woke they should’ve improved their program)
It is what you make it. My oldest son is an Eagle Scout, the second son has one badge left until Eagle.
Cub scouts is tedious but once they crossover the experiences are priceless. The older two boys went to sea base which was an awesome experience for them.
My husband and I have always been very involved in Scouting - we were cubmasters, ran dens, volunteered at summer camp, I had a Girl Scout troop for my oldest , did all the crazy trainings for Girl & cub scouts. Girl Scouts sucks btw (instead of going woke they should’ve improved their program)
It is what you make it. My oldest son is an Eagle Scout, the second son has one badge left until Eagle.
Cub scouts is tedious but once they crossover the experiences are priceless. The older two boys went to sea base which was an awesome experience for them.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:44 am to meeple
My experience with Cub Scouts was it was mostly friends and their parents from the elementary school. A couple of moms were the leaders but both were very traditional moms and all the dads were happy the ladies took charge.
It was assumed at least one parent would attend the overnight campouts. Usually, both parents would spend the day at the camping location and then the moms would leave before dark.
Also, as your son hoists a big trophy, you will get to feel the pride of having built your son’s pinewood derby car in its entirety.
We didn’t pursue Boy Scouts because the troops included kids from several different schools and it didn’t have the same feel as Cubs where it was a bunch of friends hanging out.
It was assumed at least one parent would attend the overnight campouts. Usually, both parents would spend the day at the camping location and then the moms would leave before dark.
Also, as your son hoists a big trophy, you will get to feel the pride of having built your son’s pinewood derby car in its entirety.
We didn’t pursue Boy Scouts because the troops included kids from several different schools and it didn’t have the same feel as Cubs where it was a bunch of friends hanging out.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:50 am to jbgleason
quote:That went out with Stingray bikes and Beatles haircuts. Unless our experience was alien to the rest of scouting, our Pack/Troop consisted of a lot of parent participation, including all meetings and activities. Still friends with some of the dads because scouting was a family activity through and through.
Gone are the days of dumping your kids with the Scout leader for a little kid free time.
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:51 am to meeple
Our son is in Scouts and loves it. He's starting his 4th year. We are pretty involved as well. My wife is his den leader and I'm going through the training to be a den leader now that he's older.
I've been on every camping trip, to include Summer Camp. My wife has been on a few overnight trips.
We have one girl in our Pack but at their age it doesn't really matter.
I'd encourage you to go to a few Pack meeting to get a feel for it.
Enjoy! Go Scout!
I've been on every camping trip, to include Summer Camp. My wife has been on a few overnight trips.
We have one girl in our Pack but at their age it doesn't really matter.
I'd encourage you to go to a few Pack meeting to get a feel for it.
Enjoy! Go Scout!
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:53 am to meeple
My kid is about to make eagle, they just have to do a few more badges. It’s some of the hard ones like drag queen story badge, apologizing for privilege badge, cultural enrichment badge etc
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