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re: They’ve built an Auschwitz in Australia; EDIT: Victoria now threatening cut off healthcare

Posted on 9/3/21 at 8:06 pm to
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41051 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 8:06 pm to
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think they should be vaccinated because the vaccines are safe and, so far, have been effective


Will the vaccine keep me from getting the Chinese Flu? No

Will the vaccine keep me from infecting others? No

But I can stop wearing a mask, right? No

Sounds pretty effective to me
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74888 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 8:08 pm to
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No. I don’t think you should listen to the government on this. Listen to your doctor. Not Fauci. Your doctor


Interesting you say this.

And let me preface this with saying because of who i work for I guarantee you i have outstanding health insurance for my family.

With that said, my kiddo was sick from daycare a while back. Runny nose, congestion, cough, all of it. We went to his pediatrician and she flat out told us she isn’t worried about COVID for him. She would be far more concerned about RSV, influenza, or pneumonia for his age and the vast vast majority of her child patients.

And again, i implore you to do some actual research on the CDC’s website about COVID for those under the age of 17. There have been less than 1k deaths in the United States in 2 years. For a population of 80 million, the vast majority had cancer or a life threatening illness. Still a tragedy. In that same time frame, pneumonia has taken more lives for that age group.

But to say i don’t care about children because i don’t care or am not ignorant enough to believe that if 100% of society isn’t vaccinated is utterly ridiculous. Stop fear mongering.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 8:18 pm to
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Yet. It might not get to that point, but they’re creating a caste system telling you to hate your neighbor who is different from you


Pretty sure “different” in this case means having a communicable disease and refusing to stay away from other people.

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No, it should be compared to Auschwitz because that’s the inevitable end of this.


You snowflake. Your victim mentality is showing.
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
6131 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 8:20 pm to
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This is very much comparable to what the Nazis did pre-mass murder.


They haven't rounded up anyone. They've built 2 such facilities for the travelers who previously had to quarantine in hotels. People in cities or their homes who get covid are not sent to these places. They quarantine in their homes or end up at a local/city hospital if their symptoms are bad enough.

The train/rounding up students shite was debunked instantly. The fear mongering retard that started this thread would have you believe Australian citizens are dying in here and not just going back to their homes after a couple days and a few negative covid tests.

Stepping on people's rights? Yes, clearly. Anything like the Nazis? Gfy. Gfy very hard.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28601 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 8:44 pm to
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They’ve built an Auschwitz in Australia

More accurately, they’ve built a right wing homeland where Covid lovers can live (and die) how they want, without killing others.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74888 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 9:00 pm to
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More accurately, they’ve built a right wing homeland where Covid lovers can live (and die) how they want, without killing others.


are the 60-70% of African Americans also “right wingers”?

also, does this make Trump / DeSantis / Abbott and other Republicans lefties seeing how they have been vaccinated?

your lazily thrown together point has a lot a potential holes in it lowTBoy.

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Pretty sure “different” in this case means having a communicable disease and refusing to stay away from other people.


WOW
This post was edited on 9/3/21 at 9:03 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 11:42 am to
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Second, what about my freedom to go do things I want to do without the worry of getting sick? Or my neighbor’s freedom to send his kid to school without the worry of her get covid? This isn’t about “freedom” writ large. This about you don’t like being told to do something that benefits other’s abilities to do the things they want to do, even if ultimately it will benefit you as well. This is about you desiring to do what you want, when you want even when the situation dictates otherwise.


New flash: you’ve never had the freedom from worrying. Hate to inform you, but you make risk calculations every day of your life. Sorry, but you’re way more likely to be killed by lightning than by Covid at this point if you’re fully vaccinated. And last I checked way more kids have been killed since the start of Covid by pneumonia than Covid, so frick right off with this fear mongering and tyrannical bullshite. If someone isn’t vaccinated and dies from Covid, that’s their business and not yours.

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And by the way, this has been done all over the world, including in the States, for millennia. Quarantine is perhaps the most basic concept for those who are ill. It’s two fricking weeks in a government provided, air conditioned house with tv and internet and access to recreational facilities. Then you go home. It’s not two weeks of hard labor and then you go on a death march. Take your false equivalencies elsewhere.


“It’s been done all over the world.” What the frick does that matter? Horrific things have been done all over the world. Personally as an American, I like being the exception from atrocities, which this is. If you think you can surrender my civil liberties in the name of your personal so-called safety, I say frick YOU! That is how every tyrannical society has started and I will not tolerate it. Go frick yourself, you tyrannical pussy.

Final quote from Benjamin Franklin:

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 11:45 am to
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ETA: and plus also this is in Australia so what constitution are you referring to?


Then go fricking move there if you want this tyranny. I will not tolerate it.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 11:47 am to
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I will not tolerate it.


You’ve posted your dissent online. That’s the 2021 version of fighting the Nazis!
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 11:53 am to
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Speaking of false equivalencies, reread your own post. Then, go frick yourself.


Seriously, I can not tell LoveThatMoney the number of ways to get fricked over that tyrannical and pussy post. If LoveThatMoney was living in early 1940s Germany, he’d rat his neighbors out to the Gestapo if he suspected they were hiding Jews. “Hey they knew that hiding Jews was illegal, and I’m not going to have the Gestapo busting in my doors if they suspected I knew about it. I know it’s fricked, but rules are rules.” Granted he does have an appropriate user name since he’d sell out anyone for cash since he’s a fricking coward, and there’s no one more despicable than a coward.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 11:55 am to
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After dipshit equated a two week quarantine to Auschwitz, you just equated a two week quarantine to slavery. Congratulations. Y’all have reached peak meltdown.


Laughable coming from a cowardly tyrannical pussy like you.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 11:59 am to
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You snowflake. Your victim mentality is showing.


Where do you think it starts? What would your thoughts have been two years ago throwing someone in a camp simply for making an international flight? Where do you think this is heading?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 12:02 pm to
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They haven't rounded up anyone.


Weird since I’ve seen multiple arrests of multiple Australians being rounded up simply for being more than 5 miles from their home. Who am I going to believe: you or my own lying eyes and ears?

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The train/rounding up students shite was debunked instantly. The fear mongering retard that started this thread would have you believe Australian citizens are dying in here and not just going back to their homes after a couple days and a few negative covid tests.


I’m not saying that, frick face. I’m saying the Australian people are being enslaved in an Orwellian nightmare and being rounded up if they remotely step out of line. That is true.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 12:05 pm to
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More accurately, they’ve built a right wing homeland where Covid lovers can live (and die) how they want, without killing others.


This is the exact genocidal mentality I’m talking about. TBoy is a fricking moron who thinks the other side wants to murder him and therefore has become a genocidal lunatic that wants people who disagree with him to die. These people are still in the minority on both sides, and while this is only like 15% of the population, it is increasing.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 12:06 pm to
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No. I don’t think you should listen to the government on this. Listen to your doctor. Not Fauci. Your doctor
There are doctors who have publicly stated that those who aren't vaccinated should be refused medical care.

There are doctors who oppose lockdowns, forced quarantines, etc.

Which doctors should people listen to?
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
24079 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 12:07 pm to
I’m pro vaccine but Australia is on another level of dumb right now. There is no reason to keep people locked in their houses at this point.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 12:08 pm to
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You’ve posted your dissent online. That’s the 2021 version of fighting the Nazis!


Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 12:13 pm to
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I’m pro vaccine but Australia is on another level of dumb right now. There is no reason to keep people locked in their houses at this point.
The degree to which they have curtailed civil liberties in Australia is truly fascinating and terrifying.

They will arrest you for not wearing a mask. They have arrested individuals in their homes for having too many people within the house. People cannot travel beyond a certain distance from their home and have to have a reason to leave their home. There are reports and videos of groups of teenagers being arrested for meeting on the beach and people being arrested for not wearing their masks.

Supporting and promoting anti-lockdown protests has resulted in arrests as well.

Australia has actually become a meme about tyranny at this point.

This post was edited on 9/4/21 at 12:17 pm
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20165 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 12:17 pm to
I just got back from a trip to Aruba. They make you buy an insurance policy before you get to the island that pays for a two week quarantine if you pop hot before your return flight. I thought "two more weeks at the resort, sweet!" and then I read the fine print. If you fail the text they come and get you and take you to a government "facility" where they lock you in a room for two weeks. They feed you in your room. You don't leave the room. You can't stay with your travel companion, you are alone. I talked to locals who told me the "facility" is a prison.

There was NO way I was letting anyone lock me up in a prison for 14 days because of a nose swab test.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77270 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 12:18 pm to
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I just got back from a trip to Aruba. They make you buy an insurance policy before you get to the island that pays for a two week quarantine if you pop hot before your return flight. I thought "two more weeks at the resort, sweet!" and then I read the fine print. If you fail the text they come and get you and take you to a government "facility" where they lock you in a room for two weeks. They feed you in your room. You don't leave the room. You can't stay with your travel companion, you are alone. I talked to locals who told me the "facility" is a prison.

There was NO way I was letting anyone lock me up in a prison for 14 days because of a nose swab test.
There are people in this thread who believe that is a reasonable course of action.
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