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re: There were more deaths in the US from the COVID vaccine than the COVID virus

Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:15 am to
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54140 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:15 am to
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I wonder if we'll get this story from CNN, Fox, ABC etc?? LOL

I hope they aren’t as dumb you and those that buy into this bullshite. Imagine accusing others of being media/govt sheep and then being constantly led around by bs like this.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43851 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:16 am to
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You're clearly a master of the scientific method...




The scientific method hasn't had anything to do with this virus for over a year. Why should it be used now?
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32713 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:17 am to
A =/= B

Nice whataboutism
This post was edited on 7/13/21 at 9:17 am
Posted by Triple Bogey
19th Green
Member since May 2017
5985 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:19 am to
All the senior citizens got vaccinated before anyone else.

They were also the demographic with the biggest death totals from Covid.

As sad as it is, a lot of these people were going to die from natural causes this year, even without covid or the vaccine.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43851 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:20 am to
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A =/= B

Nice whataboutism


Responding in kind.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18287 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:21 am to
For those who seriously argue that the vaccine hasn't prevented excess deaths, here's a comparison between Russia and the UK post-rollout:

Russian cases:


British cases:


Russian deaths:


British deaths:
Posted by whoisnickdoobs
Lafayette
Member since Apr 2012
9352 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:22 am to
Those damn libtards are always twisting info to fit their agenda!
Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
53615 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:28 am to
I feel like the majority of hardcore anti vaxers are turning knobs at plants while the educated medical field/professionals are very pro vax
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
3141 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:29 am to
I'm conservative but I will trust my friends that are in the medical field, not nutjob echo chambers.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52805 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:30 am to
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I feel like the majority of hardcore anti vaxers are turning knobs at plants while the educated medical field/professionals are tik tocking their latest dance moves.



FIFY

Why aren't these "medical professionals" acknowledging those that have had Covid don't need a vaccine?
This post was edited on 7/13/21 at 9:31 am
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28900 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:30 am to
Meh, if ppl want the shot then get it, if they don’t want it, then don’t.

It’ll be interesting to see what happens with this new delta variant hits in the USA. It’s causing mass lockdowns around the world again.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16417 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:30 am to
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You can estimate by trending.

How would you factor in reduction in deaths as a result of natural immunization (if that's the correct term) v vaccination?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43851 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:34 am to
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How would you factor in reduction in deaths as a result of natural immunization (if that's the correct term) v vaccination?


ThE sCiEntIfIc MeThOd

They can't. All reductions are due to the vaccine of course.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110888 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:36 am to
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For those who seriously argue that the vaccine hasn't prevented excess deaths
I believe it's around 99% of COVID deaths in the past month or so in the US have been unvaccinated people.

That would be quite the coincidence if it's not due to the vaccine.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112670 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:44 am to
I don’t know a single intelligent person in real life who is anti-vax. This board is embarrassing when it comes to this topic.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95375 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:47 am to
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FIFY
No you didnt. Nurses are the ones who tik tok dance, and I hate to tell you they are the ones who share your anti-vax messaging.....

The doctors are the ones getting vaxxed
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20118 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:50 am to
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This Gateway Pundit shite again? He even puts this part in there that you idiots will ignore again. quote: “The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database contains information on unverified reports of adverse events (illnesses, health problems and/or symptoms) following immunization with US-licensed vaccines. Reports are accepted from anyone and can be submitted electronically at www.vaers.hhs.gov.”


I don’t know what to think on the subject, but this objection has it backwards.

It is generally accepted that underreporting is a bigger problem with VAERS than overreporting of adverse events. Most people don’t take the time fill out an obscure government form when they are having a health event. It’s especially true for less serious adverse reactions.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110888 posts
Posted on 7/13/21 at 10:27 am to
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It is generally accepted that underreporting is a bigger problem with VAERS
Was that before VAERS became more mainstream and we had the biggest pandemic of our lifetimes that also happens to be highly divided along political lines?
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