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re: The workforce shortage is real and ridiculous

Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:23 am to
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
19505 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:23 am to
Damn near every retail outlet I've been to for a while now has signs out that they are hiring. I was in Target last Monday morning and when I left there was a sign on the door that said "Now Hiring----$15 Hr. to start"

If it's for a 40 hour week, that works out to $600 a week for someone with little to no work skills for a starter job.

You're not getting rich, but it is a start.

Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73384 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:25 am to
wait mungo isn’t an economic subject expert from his H&R Block gig. And Super Saint isn’t a money market genius despite his female financial backing?
Posted by Dominate308
South Florida
Member since Jan 2013
2895 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:25 am to
Biden’s America
Posted by A Smoke Break
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2018
2175 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:26 am to
Had your morning coffee yet klark?

Work is already a pain in the arse this morning.
Posted by thadcastle
Member since Dec 2019
2842 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:27 am to
quote:

Damn near every retail outlet I've been to for a while now has signs out that they are hiring. I was in Target last Monday morning and when I left there was a sign on the door that said "Now Hiring----$15 Hr. to start"

If it's for a 40 hour week, that works out to $600 a week for someone with little to no work skills for a starter job.

You're not getting rich, but it is a start.


Yeah but the thing is that increase in wages is getting passed on to middle class in prices and I doubt most of middle class is seeing an increase in wages
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:28 am to
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the OT Lefties have explained ad nauseam that the workforce shortage has absolutely nothing to do with the extra $300/month unemployment



Actually most of us has said there are likely multiple causes for it, including the expanded UI benefits. Only a fool would suggest the UI benefits aren't contributing to it. It is the righties that have said they are 100% the cause.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46493 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:28 am to
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The article actually did talk about that and how the UI benefits gave these workers a financial cushion to pursue other careers and theoretically better themselves.

In over 400 years of western society, when did it become true that one must be unemployed to better himself?

And how can anyone claim that the low income wage force is going back to work at better jobs when they are still collecting unemployment?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170793 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:29 am to
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I would say they know what they are doing since they are the world leader in what they do



Regardless

If they can't fill one out of 200 job openings the problem is internal

They probably offer a shite compensation package or they just suck at marketing themselves to potential employees
Posted by greenwave
Member since Oct 2011
3879 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:30 am to
If people were smart they would be getting ahead of the game working hard to promote themselves. Good opportunity to get a higher position than in a non labor shortage time.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73384 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:30 am to
had a cup walking out the door, but got about 2 consecutive hours of meetings coming up. gonna need an iv to get to lunch.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
94321 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:32 am to
You try way too hard
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170793 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:32 am to
quote:

If it's for a 40 hour week, that works out to $600 a week for someone with little to no work skills for a starter job.

You're not getting rich, but it is a start.

That's actually really good for a starter job
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73384 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:34 am to
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Only a fool would suggest the UI benefits aren't contributing to it. It is the righties that have said they are 100% the cause.


can i get a link to that? must’ve missed that day.
Posted by threeputtforbogie
Addison, TX
Member since Sep 2017
977 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:35 am to
Hopefully this will show that a universal basic income won’t work. It’s tough to swallow, but some people are poor and uneducated because they’re lazy and don’t want to work. There are obviously exceptions to this, but I believe we have enough systems in place already to help those individuals succeed.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46493 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:35 am to
well first of all, you have no idea what they do. If you were trying to hire skilled laborers, for example, that would be extremely difficult in certain areas. A welder who makes 16-17 per hour will stay home all day and collect 15 from Uncle Sam until the benefits are cut. Welders dont grow on trees. My company has opened a training center so they can create skilled labor. Not many small businesses can do that.

You dont have to be Fortune 500 HR director to look around and see what's happening.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46493 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:37 am to
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It is the righties that have said they are 100% the cause
OK. You win. Its only 98% the cause.
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3779 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:37 am to
quote:

Actually most of us has said there are likely multiple causes for it, including the expanded UI benefits. Only a fool would suggest the UI benefits aren't contributing to it. It is the righties that have said they are 100% the cause.


I'm all for context, but it doesn't take a lot of nuance to understand that the new labor competitor (no questions asked unemployment) has come in and kicked all other competitor's asses.

Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13414 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:38 am to
Have been trying to hire since January....have hired 0 people. We offer guaranteed hours, overtime, benefits and a fricking matching 401k.... all these short sighted imbeciles see is the hour rate vs their unemployment check.... can't compete
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:39 am to
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some people are poor and uneducated because they’re lazy and don’t want to work.


The majority of this board would stay home and not work if they were getting more than their job pays to do so. Not sure what the need is to degrade people that work these jobs. Most people here wouldn't last a day working in a lot of busy restaurants. I know I wouldn't.
Posted by Horsemeat
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Member since Dec 2014
15279 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:39 am to
God bless being an American, where they have that option and aren't forced to go work shitty jobs. Tell me, if these jobs had good insurances, better wages, and a possibility of raises - wouldn't they have the incentives to go back? A lot of the *good* workers in those jobs found better jobs or got out of the industry all together to work at warehouses with better opportunities for them - look at the northshore for example. WalMart DC and Associated Wholesale gladly scooped up all of the labor they could to meet their needs in the pandemic and paid the workers far more than they were making. That's the fun part of having the choice, and ending the fed assistance isn't going to do jack shite to change the problem in the restaurant industry. They've gotta adapt or sink.

Cook your own burgers and verbally abuse your own family, the workers are tired of that shite.
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