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re: The Suez Canal has been blocked for several hours

Posted on 3/25/21 at 4:08 am to
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
9142 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 4:08 am to
They need to get some of those big arse jet pumps Like the Egyptions used to wash gaps in the Bar Lev Line ( Israeli Berms) before crossing the canal during the 1973 War.

It’s all sand,seems like those tugs could wheel wash it.
This post was edited on 3/25/21 at 4:26 am
Posted by Jarlaxle
Calimport
Member since Dec 2010
2876 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 6:33 am to
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"Might Take Weeks" - Suez Canal Still Closed As "Enormous Beached Whale" Ship Remains Stuck
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
32861 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 6:58 am to
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Lol I’m guessing the USN doesn’t frick around with all that.


In all my passes through the Ditch on carriers, I never heard it referred to as the Marlboro Canal.


I’ve been through on regular merchant ships and USNS ships. There is a big difference in how each is treated on regular ships you have to kiss up to the port authorities because they have the power to delay you which will cost a lot of money. On the navy ships we entered last so we didn’t have to anchor in the bitter lake, and were the first ones out of the ditch.

On one of my USNS ships shortly after the Iraq war started a pilot refused to assist saying f-George Bush etc. our Captain said f-you we will do it ourselves. I didn’t have a lot of faith in the Captain’s seamanship and luckily the Chief Mate talked to the pilot and they worked it out.


Good friend of mine was "boats" on CV-60 they ran ditch several times before and of course after their gulf war deployment. Talked to him last night, he said the ditch drivers they got were always respectful and polite..... but - as the skipper told hadji.... "we are putting our arse kicking boots on"... the mood then was pretty tense.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130580 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 7:24 am to
Why can't they straighten it with tugs?
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
11038 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 7:26 am to
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Why can't they straighten it with tugs?



It grounded. Might have to dig it out and/or unload some it. Read somewhere last night that can hold 20,000 shipping containers. That's a lot of weight.
Posted by Jarlaxle
Calimport
Member since Dec 2010
2876 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 7:29 am to
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1,312ft-long, 175ft-wide, 200,000-ton vessel


quote:

"We can't exclude it might take weeks, depending on the situation. It's an enormous weight on the sand. We might have to work with a combination of reducing the weight by removing containers, oil and water from the ship, tug boats, and dredging of sand."
This post was edited on 3/25/21 at 7:30 am
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
87321 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 7:59 am to
That's alot of fricking rust for a 3 year old boat. Here's my shocked face that the engine failed.



Guy on the left: "we'll have this dug out in a jiffy."
This post was edited on 3/25/21 at 8:01 am
Posted by Passing Wind
Dutchtown
Member since Apr 2015
4397 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 8:03 am to

They starting to stack up bad and it gets worse as you zoom out
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 8:04 am to
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That's alot of fricking rust for a 3 year old boat


Where do you see rust?
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
70460 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 8:05 am to
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Why can't they straighten it with tugs?
That ship, fully laden with containers as it is, is one of the largest movable objects in the history of the Earth.

It has a huge amount of mass and it was moving when it burrowed its bow deeply into the sand.

Sand behaves interestingly in this type of grounding event: it displaces fairly easily so not to damage the ship hull, but it then fills every available space around the hull and traps it like it is vacuum-packed.

The salvors working on freeing the ship are going to try several tactics in concert-
Digging the bow out from shore, lighting the ship (pumping off fuel & ballast water), pulling on it (obviously), and possibly removing some of the containers located forward.

The crew of 25 Indians done fricked up good.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 8:49 am to


Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21766 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 8:54 am to
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Sand behaves interestingly in this type of grounding event: it displaces fairly easily so not to damage the ship hull, but it then fills every available space around the hull and traps it like it is vacuum-packed.

Yeah, it's like pulling your foot out of your rubber boot in the mud hole....only on a much more massive scale.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 8:55 am to
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Guy on the left: "we'll have this dug out in a jiffy."



Parker and Tony Beets would have that out in no time.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
60858 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 8:55 am to
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Might Take Weeks"


Damn! I have to assume there are a lot of oil tankers caught up in this mess.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
92050 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 8:57 am to
That's not rust at the water line, that's mud.

See below. It's a different angle of the pic you posted...

This post was edited on 3/25/21 at 8:59 am
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 8:59 am to
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Damn! I have to assume there are a lot of oil tankers caught up in this mess.



and the vessels that were behind the Ever Given are being escorted out the way they came in and the are going to send the Ever Given back out the way it came in once they get it un-grounded.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
22797 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 9:02 am to
I just heard on the news it could be weeks before its freed up. Suez Canal carries 10% of the worlds cargo.
This post was edited on 3/25/21 at 9:10 am
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74565 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 9:03 am to
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the are going to send the Ever Given back out the way it came in once they get it un-grounded.


Interesting. Why wouldn't they continue the escort through? Port closer the other direction or potential damage?
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72927 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 9:12 am to
It’s much closer to the Red Sea entry.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53393 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 9:16 am to
If it takes weeks to clear the Canal, can the ships go old school and go around the Cape of Good Hope?
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