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re: The nationwide K-12 tipping point
Posted on 7/15/20 at 8:21 pm to TigerintheNO
Posted on 7/15/20 at 8:21 pm to TigerintheNO
What schools should do is ask the teachers and parents what they prefer: in person or virtual.
Once they get those numbers, have a master schedule for teachers and students who opt for in person.
Also, have a master schedule for teacher and students who opt for virtual.
frick this shite of having every teacher having a mixture of both. That is going to be fricking miserable for teachers.
I teach high school math. I volunteer to teach 5 days a week in my class to the students who choose the in person learning. That’s all I want.
Once they get those numbers, have a master schedule for teachers and students who opt for in person.
Also, have a master schedule for teacher and students who opt for virtual.
frick this shite of having every teacher having a mixture of both. That is going to be fricking miserable for teachers.
I teach high school math. I volunteer to teach 5 days a week in my class to the students who choose the in person learning. That’s all I want.
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Posted on 7/15/20 at 8:34 pm to jac1280
Thank you.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 8:49 pm to rickgrimes
Seems like a lot of urban districts are going online, while suburban and rural are going hybrid or 5 day a week with an online option.
I see nothing but increased crime and more left-behind kids in the inner cities.
I see nothing but increased crime and more left-behind kids in the inner cities.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 8:49 pm to Klark Kent
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Democrats absolutely will push for 2020-2021 online learning. We know with actual data that online learning hurts the fringe students, generally minority students. Why do Democrats hate minorities?
Why would they change how they have been all along? They don’t give a rat’s arse about minorities. They just feed them bullshite to keep them voting for them.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 8:51 pm to jac1280
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jac1280
That would make sense, but it assumes that administrations have both the logistical & organizational ability AND the work ethic to put in the work to build schedules outside of their normal parameters. Dollars to donuts most will choose the path that's less work for them and let the teachers take up the slack.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 9:02 pm to jac1280
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What schools should do is ask the teachers and parents what they prefer: in person or virtual.
Once they get those numbers, have a master schedule for teachers and students who opt for in person.
Also, have a master schedule for teacher and students who opt for virtual.
frick this shite of having every teacher having a mixture of both. That is going to be fricking miserable for teachers.
I teach high school math. I volunteer to teach 5 days a week in my class to the students who choose the in person learning. That’s all I want.
That would require some actual planning and forethought. That isn't something you can expect from school administration. It would also require some work as well. Something school boards and admin seem allergic to. At least at my wife's school the vast majority want to be back in person. Same with the parents. But they'll probably end up choosing the path of least resistance for the district.
Mileage obviously may vary at other schools though with teachers.
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 7/16/20 at 6:35 am to GetCocky11
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Seems like a lot of urban districts are going online, while suburban and rural are going hybrid or 5 day a week with an online option.
I see nothing but increased crime and more left-behind kids in the inner cities.
If Democrats love one thing it’s purposefully creating wealth and education gaps and then exploiting those at the bottom
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:24 am to Breesus
Homeschool your kids and start teaching them high level math and get them started on reading classic Greek. The rest of highschool is just bs.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:52 am to yellowfin
You are correct. No quarantine required unless they show symptoms. At least in St Tammany. My kids go to private school and confirmed they are starting on time. Laughing at the rest of this hysterical BS.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:12 am to Muthsera
quote:i’ve read of cases where churches trying to pitch in to cover the needs of their fellowships, have had their non-profit statuses threatened if they charge for the services. Even if charging for them is just to cover costs. Think the state hated voucher programs? Wait till they are losing their money per child so a competent volunteer or paid but uncertified helper watches 10 kids on laptops in a Sunday school room. They will go to war.
If schools aren't in session and parents can't be home, you don't think a market will open? I would think church daycares and such would be pressured to fill the gap immediately.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:23 am to Tiger Ryno
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Tiger Ryno
Walker, Texas Ranger, and Doctor Quinn Medicine Woman are just gonna have to get book learnin' from Professor Dickweed this semester.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:26 am to Impotent Waffle
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Its a fricked up situation that districts have had since April to make plans and contingencies for and failed.
Its insane that we are 3 weeks away from school with zero answers.
Here is the truth that no one wants to tackle, particularly the school systems themselves. If they continue to treat positive cases as we have in every other public institution, i.e. 14 days at home for a positive test, then in-person instruction is going to be unsustainable. The college where I work has already stated that this is the protocol when a student is confirmed positive. Their class and their faculty go online for 14 days. What they haven't elaborated on is how each of our students are in 3-5 classes, so ALL of those classes and faculty will be sent home. If they return and a week later another student tests positive, you repeat that process. That's with one or two positives. We have 13,000 students. At a 5% positive rate, 650+ people on our campus will have it and there is literally no way we make it past two months with those protocols in place. None.
Middle and high schools will have the same issue. Elementary, not as bad, but still won't be sustainable. My middle and elementary children are going to start online the first nine weeks. We can choose to put them in for in-person instruction at the end of each grading period. They need to be in school, but because of the way cases in the classroom will be handled, the structure and consistency for kids choosing the in-person option will be non-existent. We are still trying to decide what to do with our 4-year-old who was supposed to start Pre-K. He is speech delayed and really needs the social part of school, but there is a strong likelihood they will shut down and move to all-online instruction again (they have said as much) and that does him no good, plus he loses that year to become acclimated with classroom structure as well. We won't get that back if they call everything off.
The only thing that might prevent a full shut-down are working parents where no daytime care option exits, but I wouldn't bet on it. Whatever you've done all summer, you're going to be expected/forced to find a way to extend it indefinitely. If we treated this like the flu, it could work. Kid who has it goes home, the rest continue on unless parents opt to pull their kids out on their own. But like this....it ain't gonna work.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:39 am to GetCocky11
LOL @ the mindless schlubs who suggest hybrid 3 or 2 day a week plans.
What is going to happen: people are going to send their kids to daycare/church groups/whatever because adults have to work. So on Monday, kid in school A is exposed to his fellow classmates. Then on Tuesday he goes to daycare where he is exposed to kids from school B. Kid returns to school A with his exposure to school B.
This is all a moot point though. Most of Europe has opened schools back up and there has been no surge. Swedish elementary and middle schools stayed open the entire time. I didn't hear anything about school teachers dying en masse there. If there was something to schools and corona, Sweden would have a lower average age of death, but Sweden actually has a higher average age of death than here.
People here just want to be scared.
What is going to happen: people are going to send their kids to daycare/church groups/whatever because adults have to work. So on Monday, kid in school A is exposed to his fellow classmates. Then on Tuesday he goes to daycare where he is exposed to kids from school B. Kid returns to school A with his exposure to school B.
This is all a moot point though. Most of Europe has opened schools back up and there has been no surge. Swedish elementary and middle schools stayed open the entire time. I didn't hear anything about school teachers dying en masse there. If there was something to schools and corona, Sweden would have a lower average age of death, but Sweden actually has a higher average age of death than here.
People here just want to be scared.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:04 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
Agree 100%.
So the answer to not wanting school-age children to be close to each other in school is to close it down so working parents have to send their children to a possibly unlicensed daycare center so they can be crowded in together while not learning???
Brilliant
So the answer to not wanting school-age children to be close to each other in school is to close it down so working parents have to send their children to a possibly unlicensed daycare center so they can be crowded in together while not learning???
Brilliant
Posted on 7/16/20 at 11:28 am to TeddyPadillac
Speaking from experience, home schooling is not as difficult as most people think. It is much easier when you start home schooling them early - elementary grades. I home schooled my 3 kids until they went to college. If there are subjects that you want to supplement because you're not an expert - co-ops are easy to organize, home schooling allows time for piano, tennis, whatever lessons, etc.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 11:32 am to rickgrimes
What if a kid from the hood cannot afford a computer or wi-fi?
Posted on 7/16/20 at 2:09 pm to GetCocky11
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I see nothing but increased crime and more left-behind kids in the inner cities.
These kids are the most vulnerable as well. How many are in terrible environments? Too many are surrounded daily by addiction, abuse, crime, filth, etc. Quarantine and no school has forced these kids to be isolated in these environments for months.
The sad fact is that school is far more important than most realize. My kids will be fine. It will be a pain if they are back in virtual learning. They won’t get the same type of education, and they will suffer a little from no socialization. The same can’t be said about all children.
The same types of people that have worked for generations to make schools a fundamental part of society are the one’s now arguing against it. They have always been full of shite.
Programs like Head Start and adding breakfast was never about aiding disadvantaged kids. It’s was about votes and increasing power and dependency upon government schools.
These disadvantaged kids now need school more than ever, and they are being abandoned. There’s plenty of teachers ready to teach, but administrators are providing no help or leadership. Their unions are not representing them.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 2:19 pm to Floyd Dawg
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She and the feds have little to nothing to do with this. Education decisions like these are made at the district and state levels. The incompetence lies with them.
Get the frick outta here with this bullshite! She's literally head of the federal Board of Education. It's her fricking JOB to develop plans for situations like these. My podunk arse school district superintendent doesn't exactly have access to the CDC, HHS, President, etc.
I cannot fathom how much different this board would be if a dem were president right now and this shite was all being run the same way. Y'all should embarrassed by your outright suspension of belief and common sense just because "durrrr MAGA". Covering for glaring incompetence just makes you look dumb, not loyal.
ETA: I'm not saying she makes decisions for every district in every state. There should be a set of guidelines, placed against quantifiable goals/targets, used as a guide for each district to measure the safety, or lack thereof, of an opening.
This post was edited on 7/16/20 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 7/16/20 at 2:34 pm to rickgrimes
My son’s school is already auto-drafting the funds from our bank account...so I assume they’ll open for on-site studies.
Posted on 7/16/20 at 2:58 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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Get the frick outta here with this bullshite! She's literally head of the federal Board of Education. It's her fricking JOB to develop plans for situations like these.
It absolutely amazes me how we were able to teach our children before the amazing and always useful Department of Education was created by Jimmah in 1979. It's a wonder kids who went to school prior to this day can even function in society.
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