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The human urge to leave monuments behind - why does it exist and who is the champion at it
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:53 pm
A recent book I read on some Roman emperors got me thinking on this. What is the source of the urge to have big monuments, cities, states, etc. named after you?
Egyptian pharaohs, Greek conquerors, Roman emperors, Russian dictators, private citizens, etc. all seemed to crave this big time. Alexandria, Constantinople, Stalingrad, and all kinds of buildings, arches, bridges and other stuff. Some they founded or built, some they just kind of appropriated.
Things like the drive to acquire things, have sex, etc. can all be explained as component parts of the drive to survive and pass on our genes, but I'm not sure the need to have things named after us can be explained that way.
And who do you think is the all time champ? King Louis of France still has his name said regularly in connection with Louisiana. Washington has the capitol city of the U.S. and a state named after him as well as Parishes and I'm sure counties and towns. I'm assuming the state of Georgia is named after one of the King Georges. I'm not sure about the country of Georgia.
In a way, religious figures have tons of things if you consider things like Christian churches, Buddhist temples, etc.
Egyptian pharaohs, Greek conquerors, Roman emperors, Russian dictators, private citizens, etc. all seemed to crave this big time. Alexandria, Constantinople, Stalingrad, and all kinds of buildings, arches, bridges and other stuff. Some they founded or built, some they just kind of appropriated.
Things like the drive to acquire things, have sex, etc. can all be explained as component parts of the drive to survive and pass on our genes, but I'm not sure the need to have things named after us can be explained that way.
And who do you think is the all time champ? King Louis of France still has his name said regularly in connection with Louisiana. Washington has the capitol city of the U.S. and a state named after him as well as Parishes and I'm sure counties and towns. I'm assuming the state of Georgia is named after one of the King Georges. I'm not sure about the country of Georgia.
In a way, religious figures have tons of things if you consider things like Christian churches, Buddhist temples, etc.
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:54 pm to Methuselah
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What is the source of the urge to have big monuments, cities, states, etc. named after you?
Big dick energy
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:54 pm to Methuselah
What’s this have to do with Covid19?
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:54 pm to Methuselah
Well in NOLA we like to tear monuments down
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:55 pm to Methuselah
Friend,
Churches are made to glorify God and show the world what beauty is available to them through the works of our hands.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
Churches are made to glorify God and show the world what beauty is available to them through the works of our hands.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:55 pm to Methuselah
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This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 1:02 am
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:59 pm to Methuselah
Some people just want to be remembered.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:00 pm to Methuselah
There are cities all over the world named after Alexander the Great, including in Louisiana. Its mostly due to ego and certain people wanting their name to be known throughout all of history.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:05 pm to Methuselah
It's the ego and hubris of man that drives us to leave marks behind.
So far, the frontrunners have got to be the Soviets. There are thousands of square miles of Belarus and Ukraine that will have detectable signs (though not necessarily still dangerous or preventative of land use) of Chernobyl for tens of thousands of years.
3.8 Roentgen.
So far, the frontrunners have got to be the Soviets. There are thousands of square miles of Belarus and Ukraine that will have detectable signs (though not necessarily still dangerous or preventative of land use) of Chernobyl for tens of thousands of years.
3.8 Roentgen.
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:05 pm to Methuselah
I have posited that on some level, every decision we make is based on the fact that we know we are going to die. Monuments are an obvious attempt to achieve (even symbolically) immortality.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:06 pm to Methuselah
It's the idea of living forever
Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:08 pm to Methuselah
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The human urge to leave monuments behind
Is retarded
Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:10 pm to Methuselah
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who is the champion at it
The Egyptian pharaohs.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:16 pm to Methuselah
quote:Sure it can. Immortality by another means.
Things like the drive to acquire things, have sex, etc. can all be explained as component parts of the drive to survive and pass on our genes, but I'm not sure the need to have things named after us can be explained that way
Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:17 pm to Methuselah
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who is the champion at it
The United States.
After the sun has bloated itself, consuming the Earth and then going out in style with a supernova, the Pioneer and Voyager spacecrafts will be all that is left of mankind.
That is, if we don't get off this rock and expand out into the stars sometime in the next couple of billion years.
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:17 pm to Methuselah
Confederate monuments didn't spike in creation until the 1950s and 60s.
Gee, I wonder why that was.
Gee, I wonder why that was.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:21 pm to Brosef Stalin
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There are cities all over the world named after Alexander the Great, including in Louisiana. Its mostly due to ego and certain people wanting their name to be known throughout all of history.
Alexander is a good one.
One who is notable for seemingly have a lot of places named after him who was never leader of a country or anything like that is Lafayette. Lots of cities and stuff named after that baw for helping in the revolution.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:22 pm to Methuselah
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who is the champion at it
Whoever threw the most amount of ridiculous human suffering. Probably the Egyptians
Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:30 pm to Methuselah
I don’t want to delve too deep into this, but since I was just thinking about it last night I will. I believe in “God.” I’m not sure in what form “He” exists—I doubt we have the slightest capacity to even fathom it—but a Creator makes sense to me.
However, I don’t fully trust my “belief,” because I understand there is a deep human need to deny our mortality, and I think, to protect us, our brains are capable of fooling us into believing things in order to simply survive. I’m not sure we could truly take the definitive knowledge that we one day won’t exist, that our consciousness will cease into oblivion. Some may suspect it, but we have to have at least a sliver of hope that we will go on on some level of existence.
However, I don’t fully trust my “belief,” because I understand there is a deep human need to deny our mortality, and I think, to protect us, our brains are capable of fooling us into believing things in order to simply survive. I’m not sure we could truly take the definitive knowledge that we one day won’t exist, that our consciousness will cease into oblivion. Some may suspect it, but we have to have at least a sliver of hope that we will go on on some level of existence.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:33 pm to Methuselah
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What is the source of the urge to have big monuments, cities, states, etc. named after you?
Baw, those things you speak of were the trucknuts of their day!!
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