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re: The gloves are off regarding St. George...

Posted on 1/12/14 at 7:18 am to
Posted by BeaverPRO
Tampa
Member since Aug 2009
16265 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 7:18 am to
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There are several more hurdles to jump to get in the BRPD.

not disagreeing with you there. Just stating to be a Sheriff's Deputy in EBR all you need is to sign a paper. To be in the BRPD, you have to be recruited and fill out an APPLICATION.
Posted by TigerHax
Red Stick
Member since Nov 2008
598 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 7:50 am to
You can't include Parkview. It's private.
Posted by Huck Finn
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2636 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 7:52 am to
Being unfamiliar with the entry requirements for both groups of pop-up, that point was totally anecdotal. I've met a few sheriff officers and a few city cops before. None of the EBRSO had a napoleonic complex. The city cops were too close to all the wrong characters in super troopers.

If that's the best rebuttal of my post, though, I'll take it.
Posted by lsutiger610c
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
139 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 7:56 am to
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Are those the same parish services that the SG supporters are always complaining about because they are inadequate? Those services, right? The same fire protection that is a full notch below BR's fire rating causing SG property owners to have considerably higher homeowner's insurance? That fire prorection?


This is incorrect most insurance companies have no rate difference between a Class 1 rating (BRFD) and a Class 2 rating (St. George Fire). Just check with your agent.
Posted by Sir Drinksalot
Member since Aug 2005
16888 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 7:57 am to
Why would anyone be against St George?
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 9:28 am to
I agree about BRPD (Kip Holden's Thug Force) is a joke with a complex.

BRPD is protected by civil service.
They had a BRPD officer that did not do his reports for over a year and it took an act of congress to fire him.

Sheriff if he tells you to do something and you do not do it you are fired.

My father called BRPD for over a year about a huge drug house. A BRPD Officer came over and threatened my father and the head of narcotics said it was users not sellers in my area. Next night the Sheriff busted the house which seemed like the BRPD was protecting.

I called Sheriff Sid Gautreaux and in two days their Narcotics officer had pictures, real names, and who the distributor was along with times they come in the area. In one week they did what the BRPD could not do in a year shutting down the drug house. Which these people also went to Broadmoor to steal from people and bring the goods back here to sell at the local pawn shops.

If BRPD cared they would have busted this house and people sooner than the Sheriff's office.

They had a stolen fairly new Toyota SUV parked at the drug house with the alarm going off. After 15 minutes I called BRPD. They were busy and said they could not respond. Called the Sheriff in 15 minutes they responded, recovered the vehicle while guys were stripping the radio out of it, and the person in Broadmoor got their SUV back.

Now who do you want to protect you the useless overpaid worthless BRPD (Kid Holden's Thug Force) or the Sheriff's office who is elected by the people of this parish.
This post was edited on 1/12/14 at 9:43 am
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
17230 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 9:30 am to
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You can't include Parkview. It's private.


He's not talking about Parkview Baptist, he's referring to Parkview Elementary which is a public school in Parkview Oaks.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:07 am to
Since this thread has turned into a voice your opinion thread...

I'm an outsider living in Ascension parish, so I won't have a vote.

I'm a very fiscally conservative kinda person, but having tried to evaluate this objectively, I don't think City of St. George is a good idea.

Take those tax dollars away from City of BR, and it's going to go down big time. It's not in the best interest of anyone to live next to a slum... including those new St. George residents.

Careful what you ask for...
Posted by LT
The City of St. George
Member since May 2008
5163 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:11 am to
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I'm an outsider living in Ascension parish, so I won't have a vote.


Maybe the good people of Praireville should kick a little something in for Baton Rouge too...



Posted by Beau Tie
Member since Oct 2012
951 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:28 am to
You do realize that Prairieville could be apart of this new city if they want to be annexed in as well. They are unincorporated. I think that is where this is moving eventually. Of course at that point they may be able to get a whole new parish out of the deal and that would really centralize the power and the money.

Be careful for what you ask for because if you don't ask for it you never know what you could have had.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:32 am to
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Maybe the good people of Praireville should kick a little something in for Baton Rouge too...


Good point.

But we do. Many of work there, and most of us spend plenty of dollars there, sales tax dollars.

Friend, I do NOT like sending tax dollars to ANYONE else, but really, think about how it will affect everything around you.

This debate is in its infancy, don't rush to a decision yet...
Posted by Mack
Member since Nov 2013
827 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 10:50 am to
Get out of here with all of the realistic objectivity!

Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12165 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:05 am to
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You're one of the naive that were getting your brain hammerdickd by LSURussian all afternoon yesterday. The guy has you pegged, bro. It is what it is. Walk away with some dignity.
Oh. And you're one of the enlightened. Only thing pegged in this thread is Russian with his racist crap, bro.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12165 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:08 am to
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I don't believe I'm talking out my arse,
You can "believe" whatever you want, but unless you KNOW the intimate details of the EBR revenue collection/ distribution, then all you are doing is talking out of your arse.
Posted by LT
The City of St. George
Member since May 2008
5163 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:21 am to
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Prairieville could be apart of this new city if they want to be annexed in as well. They are unincorporated. I


Ascension bonded Praireville to the gills in the last tax election. Just about every penny of their revenue is earmarked for the foreseeable future. They would actually have to raise taxes to incorporate.
This post was edited on 1/12/14 at 11:25 am
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12165 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:22 am to
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Take those tax dollars away from City of BR, and it's going to go down big time. It's not in the best interest of anyone to live next to a slum... including those new St. George residents.
So your point is to leave the status quo b/c BR could get worse.... Am I understanding you correctly?
(Assuming BR city doesn't generate enough revenue to self-sustain).
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25716 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:24 am to
quote:

Why would anyone be against St George


To play the devil's advocate.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12165 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:33 am to
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To play the devil's advocate.
Bingo.

They can post anything they want about BR city credit rating, or police and fire services, or call everyone racist, or brag on being able to use excel, or claim victory for themselves, but none of them have been able to address the real issue.....

Non-select high school public education.

And they can't. It's a moot point.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135350 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:52 am to
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I even provided the link for you.
Yeah. I really appreciate that. Unfortunately your link is not very helpful because when I click on your link I get....
quote:

404 - File or directory not found.
The resource you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

So all I could go by was your word that you were using school ratings from 2011, a full two school years ago of ratings. Why not use the 2013 ratings which are available? Could it be because you prefer to lie and hope no one checks your facts and catch you in that lie????

Could it be you don't want the facts known that the EBR school system, while still needing much improvement, has improved greatly since the federal courts ended their supervision and the school system as a whole has greatly improved their academic achievements proven by the fact since 2008 when the system was released back to the supervision of the school board the percent of A + B rated schools has DOUBLED?!? And since that same year the percent of D and F schools in EBR has dropped from more than 75% of the schools to less than half?

Still a long way to go, but vast improvement has been shown since the federal court got out of the way. The trend is definitely in a good direction.



LINK

I repeat what I wrote earlier....
quote:

You've lost all credibility.
This post was edited on 1/12/14 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17905 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 12:02 pm to
So the people of St George are seeing their tax dollars collected and shipped away to the king in BR and are getting tired if it, and they are ready to break away from the kingdom and start their own colony, or city......kinda reminds me of something that happened a couple hundred years ago, looks like it worked out well, despite many opponents, maybe it is time to have a party, a tea party that is?
This post was edited on 1/12/14 at 12:16 pm
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