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re: The gap in productivity between the United States and Europe is growing. Air Condition

Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:21 pm to
Posted by jdaute2
lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2012
2179 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:21 pm to
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The high in Madrid tomorrow is 101.

Apparently Spain gets very hot. I didn’t really know this until a couple years ago when my parents went there during the summer. It was when we were having that heat wave here and I thought they got some relief but they sent me the temps they were dealing with everyday and it was surprising.
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
7052 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:24 pm to
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The high for today in London was 84 degrees


It was in the 80s when vacationing in Maine and New Hampshire this July. Air BNBs had insufficient AC. Most stores had little to none. You know how hot a coffee shop is in Portland Maine when it’s only 84 outside? At least 84 degrees. North of where Entergy suggests you sweat it out every summer.

Miserable arse hippies.


Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
71788 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:24 pm to
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It's 58 in Warsaw, with a high tomorrow of 80.


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and they'll call that a heat wave


I’ll never call 80 a heat wave unless it’s in the middle of January. Having said that, I can promise you I’ll have my AC on when it’s 80 degrees outside.
Posted by BitBuster
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2017
1601 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:25 pm to
Electricity costs a 2-3x as much there vs here. That is certainly a contributing factor.
Posted by forkedintheroad
Member since Feb 2025
1337 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:30 pm to
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You have headlines in conflict with the Europe assertion


That's the joke, genius
Posted by RazorBroncs
Possesses the largest
Member since Sep 2013
15748 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:34 pm to
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It's 58 in Warsaw, with a high tomorrow of 80.



and they'll call that a heat wave





If any of you southerners know and work with us Poles, now you know why we're sweating our balls off in July/August in the south

My people simply aren't built for 110° heat indexes. 80° sounds like perfect swimming weather to me
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
18878 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:36 pm to
So AC makes us fat? Cmon!
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29634 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:36 pm to
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And 81% of rented properties in Madrid have AC


Was just in Madrid last month. There was a/c everywhere. Same in Seville. They also said it was supposed to be hot in Madrid. It was 95. I walked about 6 miles across that town and barely broke a sweat.
I took the garbage out last night in Baton Rouge and broke a sweat.

Madrid is also over 2000 feet in elevation so heat over there just doesn’t feel the same and it still feels very cool in the shade. They are basically the same latitude as NYC.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49495 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:41 pm to
Dew point me
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
71788 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:42 pm to
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Electricity costs a 2-3x as much there vs here. That is certainly a contributing factor.


That’s also their own fault.

Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
90092 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 6:43 pm to
Al Gore has moved to London.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
99895 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:10 pm to
I just don’t understand why these developed countries don’t have A/C


Seems like self inflicted punishment when most could afford at the least a window unit or two for when it gets too hot
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
33642 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:13 pm to
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Electricity costs a 2-3x as much there vs here. That is certainly a contributing factor.



Going full on with "green energy" is worth it
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
99895 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:14 pm to
I’m reading this thread enjoying my home with the thermostat at 65


Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
15853 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:16 pm to
I worked in Europe in the summer of 1998 and they had a brief heat wave. The office where I worked opened their windows and it didn’t seem too bad. The best part was smoking in the office was still acceptable and the boss smoked like a chimney. I didn’t mind but then again my childhood home in Louisiana didn’t have A/C on the second floor where we slept.

Box fans for the win!
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
12885 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:22 pm to
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I just don’t understand why these developed countries don’t have A/C


A lot of buildings that survived WWII don't have the space for central A/C. To do it can require a lot of cost, so corporate buildings mostly have it, but some residences do not. There isn't space to run duct work (a lot of the construction is stone or concrete, unlike here) for duct work, so you end up with single room units in residences and Air BnBs like . They may not be in every room because electricity is so expensive. The same job in London that I do pays about 1/3 of what I make in the US before tax, so when you pay at least twice as much for electricity, and you make less money, it makes a difference.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35729 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:27 pm to
Funny that they went to AC and climate when all of the below, which we all knew already, is also a thing that directly related to productivity.

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Here's a summary of the findings:

In the US: The average weekly hours for employed individuals is around 41 hours.
In the EU: The average is approximately 36 hours per week (based on 2024 data).

This difference is further highlighted by:
A survey showing that 48% of US workers report working more than 40 hours per week, compared to only 31% in Europe.

The average US employee working almost 60 days more than the average German employee annually, according to an OECD analysis.

Factors contributing to this difference
Fewer weekly hours in Europe: Full-time workers in Europe generally work shorter weeks.

Longer leave entitlements in Europe: European countries typically have more generous paid leave and holiday policies compared to the US.

Stronger labor unions and regulations in Europe: These factors can contribute to shorter working hours and better work-life balance for European employees.

Potential impact of higher marginal taxes in Europe: Some economists suggest that higher marginal tax rates in Europe may disincentivize working longer hours compared to the US.


But yes, the changing climate is what's causing the productivity gap
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19123 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:30 pm to
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Just remember the democrats want us to be exactly like those slums in Europe.


EPA is working hard to make AC a thing of the past here. They just passed new regs that take effect next year. A new refrigerant is mandated which will make manufacturing of new units very expensive.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19123 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:44 pm to
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The same job in London that I do pays about 1/3 of what I make in the US before tax, so when you pay at least twice as much for electricity,


I believe electricity prices in the UK are around 32 (U.S. cents) per kWh. That's on par with Cali and much lower than it has been the past few years. And it's only at 32 cents because the government just put in price caps. The UK is very socialist and the government controls pretty much everything there - from housing to electricity to healthcare.

The average price of electricity in the U.S. is like 16 cents per kWh and that's without any price controls.
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
6322 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 9:47 pm to
To top it off those MF’rs don’t put ice cubes in their drinks and look at you like you’re crazy when you ask for them.
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