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re: The early returns on leglalized sports gambling are ugly and sad
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:01 am to MoarKilometers
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:01 am to MoarKilometers
quote:I am right there with you right when we get rid of the financial support systems.
MoarKilometers
You want to gamble? You forego your ability to receive welfare if/when your choices result in substantial money loss.
You want to partake in drugs like heroin, fentanyl, meth? You forego your ability to receive state funded medical care.
Freedom is great when it is actual freedom. If society is subsidizing your poor choices, society should have control over your choices.
Remove that safety net and I will back the “freedom” position 100%.
If society is supporting your lifestyle, society should control your lifestyle.
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Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:03 am to Evil Little Thing
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If they legalized and regulated heroin like they’ve done with gambling, fewer people would die from using it.
they tried that with Oxycotin
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:12 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
A fool and his money are soon parted. That saying will probably always be true.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:53 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I am all for personal freedom but gambling is out of control in society. It needs to be publically shamed like prostitution or being a Falcons fan.
On personal level, i play in a fantasy football league with money buy ins. Overall, i am probably down $500 over say 10 years. I hate just typing that out.
On personal level, i play in a fantasy football league with money buy ins. Overall, i am probably down $500 over say 10 years. I hate just typing that out.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:56 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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"leads to a roughly 9% increase in intimate-partner violence"
How TF do they know this?
"Why did your husband beat you?"
"It's cause I done seen him bettin on dem Volunteers."
Yeah right. Complete bullshite.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:59 am to HempHead
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I've seen enough Montana geezers spend their SS checks sitting in front of a reel machine every day to reconsider my stance on at least some forms of gambling.
It’s fricking wild
Places open at 8 AM here in Missoula and there will be people in there pushing a button
Posted on 9/24/24 at 11:11 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Sad but I believe gambling is worse than people think. I know people that lose their arse on video poker. It’s really hard to watch.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 11:19 am to rrboy
Yeah, there's a video of a guy using the slot machine built in ATM to withdraw $20k from his bank. About 5 seconds later that $20k is down to $17k. I can't fathom losing that much that quickly.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 11:28 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Some people who drink get drunk. So should we outlaw liquor?
Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:50 pm to RummelTiger
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Did not click due to "The Atlantic"...
Also, do not believe due to "The Atlantic"...
This is about as 2024 America as it gets...not believing something that one has not read...and seemingly kind of proud of it....
Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:53 pm to AwgustaDawg
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This is about as 2024 America as it gets...not believing something that one has not read...and seemingly kind of proud of it....
And you did not read further where I said I was just making fun of The Atlantic and that I do believe they could be correct.
If you're coming here thinking everyone is super serious in each post, then you're coming here for the wrong reasons...
Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:54 pm to RummelTiger
You should ban him, Rummy.
Don’t let him push you around.
Don’t let him push you around.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:56 pm to SixthAndBarone
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Some people who drink get drunk. So should we outlaw liquor?
We shouldn't prohibit liquor or gambling or most other vices. But we shouldn't be promoting them either.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:56 pm to Scruffy
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You should ban him, Rummy.
Don’t let him push you around.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:58 pm to bott18240
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Legal gambling like we have now is much more accessible. It’s not like the local bookies have apps.
I bet with a bookie on a website on my phone back in 2010 that had a mobile version that worked like an app
They all do shite like that.
The money just didn’t pass through it so it was a “legal” website.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:02 pm to AwgustaDawg
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This is about as 2024 America as it gets..
Yes, the Atlantic is a pure left wing propaganda rag. I agree, its the most 2024 thing ever.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:26 pm to lsu777
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who gives a shite....dont need to regulate behaviour that doesnt violate personal property rights
people choosing to do this....well its on them, frick em. cant save everyone from themselves
Yes and no. Gambling is an addiction just like nicotine or alcohol. And just like with those substances, addiction creates external problems for society. Bankruptcy costs creditors money. DV speaks for itself. When these internal problems become externalized, society, through government, has an obligation to protect itself.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:47 pm to bulletprooftiger
stop trying to force your morality on others. if they want to gamble let them. it is not your job to protect people from themselves and control others
Posted on 9/24/24 at 1:54 pm to lsu777
That is not at all what I wrote.
When the individual's problem becomes society's problem, society should fix it. Otherwise, we just keep paying for these addicts' mistakes.
When the individual's problem becomes society's problem, society should fix it. Otherwise, we just keep paying for these addicts' mistakes.
Posted on 9/24/24 at 2:12 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Was this research done before gambling became legal? When it was illegal, it would probably surprise a lot of people the amount of people who owed a bookie a lot of money.
And although you didn't hear about it, if someone owed a bookie and showed no sign in paying them, the best way for a bookie to get their money was to contact that person's significate other.
A lot of wives don't like the idea that their husband would be exposed for being a degenerate. That would be embarrassing and would not at all fit the image she wants her family to have. Anyway, my point is.. Legalizing gambling only exposes problems that was already an issue. They just have the numbers now to back it up.
And although you didn't hear about it, if someone owed a bookie and showed no sign in paying them, the best way for a bookie to get their money was to contact that person's significate other.
A lot of wives don't like the idea that their husband would be exposed for being a degenerate. That would be embarrassing and would not at all fit the image she wants her family to have. Anyway, my point is.. Legalizing gambling only exposes problems that was already an issue. They just have the numbers now to back it up.
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