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The digitizing of human history will eventually (or already has) lead to is constant....

Posted on 11/12/20 at 7:48 am
Posted by jlovel7
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 7:48 am
Changing.

I read 1984 this summer and to be honest it scared the crap out of me. It’s crazy the parallels you can see there between life today.

When all our knowledge was in books and analog sources it would have been near impossible to change it all. But the flip side it was harder to add actual facts and experiences to existing collections without replacing the whole book/encyclopedia etc...

So now we have basically the worlds knowledge accessible by phone but how do we know how much of it has already been altered?

I know history is written by the victor and much of what we think we know is probably bullshite anyway at least to some extent but once we fully digitize everything what prevents things from starting to shift dramatically 1984 style?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 7:49 am to
Google says this is an unfounded right wing conspiracy theory so it must be true
This post was edited on 11/12/20 at 7:50 am
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 7:52 am to
Bill Gates can read your thoughts if you’ve ever submitted to a retinal scan in the past 20 years.
Posted by EA6B
TX
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 7:52 am to
I would gladly go back to a world before the internet. I would be reading a book learning something instead of wasting time on this board.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 7:54 am to
The internet is awesome
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 7:54 am to
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I would gladly go back to a world before the internet. I would be reading a book learning something instead of wasting time on this board.

The thought of having to dig through a library card catalog to find a book then go running around the library trying to find it makes me want to yack
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18847 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 7:54 am to
quote:

I know history is written by the victor and much of what we think we know is probably bullshite anyway at least to some extent but once we fully digitize everything what prevents things from starting to shift dramatically 1984 style?


The way history was written in books, with separate books documenting differing opinions and sides of the story, the same will occur digitally. The only difference is the prevailing, or most common, historical perspective will be the one with the most retweets.

This post was edited on 11/12/20 at 8:05 am
Posted by LoneStar23
USA
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 7:57 am to
I'm halfway through the book right now. It's crazy that some of the things we are seeing were predicted in the 50s
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25845 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:00 am to
What are you talking about?

We have always been at war with Eastasia.
Posted by Booyow
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:03 am to
quote:

When all our knowledge was in books and analog sources it would have been near impossible to change it all.


Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
36163 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:04 am to
quote:

I would gladly go back to a world before the internet. I would be reading a book learning something instead of wasting time on this board.
Fact check: true

I’ve been slowly gathering books, puzzles, games, DVDs, records, etc. in an effort to get back to an internet-independent state when it comes to non-outdoor activities. At least with these activities you don’t get zoned out as easily, and they don’t have built-in features that are designed to suck your time away and keep your attention as long as possible.

Maybe one day I’ll ditch TD and Twitter and enjoy these things

ETA: the internet is awesome: my gripe is specifically with social media and entertainment companies competing for our attention and time and money (ads)

I think my favorite part of the internet is the ability to learn. I have learned so much from podcasts and informative websites, it’s ridiculous. The ability to Google just about anything is incredible. That said, our dependence on the internet can hinder our ability to retain information we learn, similar to how the calculator enabled us to calculate more complex formulas, but our dependence on the calculator hindered our ability to calculate in our heads.

Email, iMessage, and FaceTime are pretty great too.
This post was edited on 11/12/20 at 10:13 am
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37713 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:09 am to
quote:

The digitizing of human history will eventually (or already has) lead to is constant.... by jlovel7
Changing.



Flip side - before the internet it was far easier to control what people read via not printing what you didn’t want printed.

The difficulty now lies not in getting your voice out there, but differentiating your voice enough to be heard due to the sheer amount of other voices.

We went from a world with a limited source of knowledge and information flow to a world with unlimited knowledge and information flow. It’s become far harder to differentiate “truth” from “lie”
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
148296 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:13 am to
Yeah but who cares... we can solicit a thot half a world away to share a picture of her butthole with you in seconds.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53099 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:13 am to
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The thought of having to dig through a library card catalog to find a book then go running around the library trying to find it makes me want to yack 

I remember going to Middleton and looking up old newspaper articles on microfiche for papers.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
59032 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:15 am to
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read 1984 this summer and to be honest it scared the crap out of me.
wow man this is deep
Posted by TaiBomber
Member since Oct 2013
111 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:27 am to
It wasn’t prediction though. People seem to think sci-fi writers are some kind of Nostradamus, when really their work reflects the time it was written more than anything else. 1984 is a Cold War era novella, dealing with Cold War era themes.

That history repeats itself is a more chilling thought.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17456 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:33 am to
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So now we have basically the worlds knowledge accessible by phone but how do we know how much of it has already been altered?


Because we now have a world full of fact checkers waiting to point out any minor error. Use common sense. If you believe everything you read on the internet, you probably should step away.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43946 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:35 am to
quote:

I read 1984 this summer and to be honest it scared the crap out of me.



I haven't read this since high school. Just ordered it off Amazon. Looking forward to it.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Member since Aug 2019
10954 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:37 am to
I also think a huge danger to digitizing everything is, what if the data is wiped out by catastophe? We would be plunged into the dark ages with quickness.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53099 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:39 am to
quote:

It wasn’t prediction though. People seem to think sci-fi writers are some kind of Nostradamus, when really their work reflects the time it was written more than anything else. 1984 is a Cold War era novella, dealing with Cold War era themes.

I don't think anyone believes that it was a prediction but rather notice some of striking parallels with modern times.
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