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re: The Depp/Heard Trial is the gift that keeps on giving

Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:30 am to
Posted by abellsujr
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:30 am to
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No testimony next week due to the judge being off.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:30 am to
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I think everyone has this perception of her already. It would be different if we were hearing this without already knowing she has a history of lying, cheating, extorting, etc. So every word is dissected.


Maybe... But if you take someone like me and put on the jury, someone who had no idea who amber heard was prior to this, her testimony is believable.

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Man I can’t wait for cross


Me either!!!!!!
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:31 am to
Thanks Teke and Ab. Guess I'll listen to music while I work today and next week.
Posted by carhartt
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:34 am to
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her testimony is believable.


I’m sorry, but you have to have zero ability to read people or be an absolute idiot to believe her story. It’s ridiculous how shallow and fake she is.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:35 am to
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or be an absolute idiot


damn bruh.. good morning to you too!
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:36 am to
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Maybe... But if you take someone like me and put on the jury, someone who had no idea who amber heard was prior to this, her testimony is believable.
You heard Depp’s testimony and witnesses already. So you know her history. The jury does as well.

But like I said, all of that should be put aside while she’s testifying so you can listen. I think even doing that, the second half of her testimony had some major issues as I listed in my post. Will the jury agree? We’ll see.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 9:38 am
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:39 am to
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You heard Depp’s testimony and witnesses already. So you know her history.


I actually started watching Wednesday when her direct started. I was late to the game. Probably shouldn't be posting in this thread, lol.. Have enjoyed you and others insights since I had no information up til then.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:42 am to
If you’re interested in seeing the jury’s point of view, go back and catch up while it’s not live. Your eyes will be open to who Heard is. Let’s just say she “shite the bed”
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:44 am to
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If you’re interested in seeing the jury’s point of view, go back and catch up while it’s not live. Your eyes will be open to who Heard is. Let’s just say she “shite the bed”


I need to do that!
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:46 am to
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No testimony today, it is the day for motions to be filed or heard.

No testimony next week due to the judge being off.

the judge isn't "off" per se

she's got to go to a conference where all the judges of Virginia learn about the new laws passed by the Virginia Commonwealth Government and how it impacts them

it's a continuing learning deal they must go to... just unfortunate timing that it's right in the middle of this trial
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 10:00 am
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:47 am to
Both sides have issued statements regarding her testimony with Depp speaking first. Link to the People article is below. I don't have time to quote it right now, so you'll have to read it for yourself.

Sure seems to me that Depp is worried. Why issue a statement in the middle of a jury trial? I also think they are hoping the jurors read it. I know jurors tend to take their jobs seriously, but a week is a long time in a very public trial not to read, hear or be told something.

People article with statements
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:52 am to
This is not just a trial in civil court. Even more so, it’s a trial in the public eye. Heard’s testimony is like a 20/20 interview. So Depp is going to immediately respond. As he should.

Imagine if Heard’s testimony was a 20/20 interview and Depp sat silent until a week from Monday. That would look really bad for him.

I think a response is not only fine, but absolutely necessary.

This entire trial is 20/20 interviews with each side having the opportunity to cross the allegations in each interview. This is more about public perception.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 9:57 am
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:07 am to
It's all subject to individual interpretation. In my opinion, feeling the need to issue a public statement in the middle of the trial makes Depp look worried and weakens my opinion of his side, though she was definitely dramatic and likely exaggerating at the very least. They sure let her go on and on and on, but maybe Depp's folks wanted that. We'll see. Cross will tell.

This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 10:29 am
Posted by winkchance
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:09 am to
It is like watching the sequel to Gone Girl
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:23 am to
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It's all subject to individual.
Of course. And sometimes we just need to accept that Depp’s team has a reason for what they’re doing. They’ve been very successful up to this point. There may not be a perfect action for them to take. But they’re taking what they feel like is the BEST action. I see both sides, but I think going silent for over a week gives the media an opportunity to only focus on that testimony for a long period of time. You have to get yourself back out in the headlines with something other than “Depp sexually assaulted Heard according to her”. You have to try and balance it as best as you can. Some “Depp’s team responds to Heard’s allegations” headlines are better than having nothing. There are many factors here.
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she was definitely dramatic and likely exaggerating at the very least. They sure let her go on and on and on
Again, there is no perfect option. If you start objecting when she’s crying and emotional, you run the risk of making her look attacked. Making Depp look like the abuser he’s being accused of. They already cut her off a lot as it is. You have to be careful when she goes off on those emotional rants. And one can argue, her rants begin to make her story appear convoluted, less clear, and less believable. So again, there are many factors going on here.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 10:28 am
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:38 am to
I don't doubt Depp's team took to the press because they believe it's the best course of action with regard to public opinion. I'm not sure I agree. I think they are hoping their statement gets to the jury somehow or to some of them who weaken during the week.

The timing of leaving the jury with Amber's testimony for a week is unfortunate, particularly in this sensitive trial.

I think there were some times Depp's team should have objected, but I also see your point that letting her go on and on and not interrupting too much. There are risks both ways.



Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:53 am to
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I think they are hoping their statement gets to the jury somehow or to some of them who weaken during the week
And I really think you’re focusing way more on the jury than Depp’s team is. Not that they’re not at all. But winning this case is going to be difficult. The jury just has to believe that one physical assault happened for defamation to be disproven. The defense has an overwhelming advantage in defamation suits. They have to basically believe that Depp did not physically abuse her in any way ever. Heard does not have to prove every detail in her story is correct. That’s going to be tough.

This is about public eye going forward more than anything. The headlines are out. That was the last thing everyone saw in the trial. There are even people seeing this trial for the first time (as proven in this thread). You have to respond. You have to get some headlines out there that you can control. The battle in the public eye is ongoing and never has a recess. You have to get something out there.
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There are risks both ways.
There always is. When his team is deciding what actions to take, all aspects are presented and the best option is decided. They’re not saying “What do we do to please abellsujr?” They have the entire world to think about.

And that “let her go off” tactic is common in trial law. It’s pretty much always used. You get them in cross. But even then you have to be careful. The goal is to bring out her condescending, vengeful side. Not attack her victim side.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 11:15 am
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:20 am to
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This is about public eye going forward more than anything.


It will be interesting how it plays out for both of them. That ship has sailed for me. I wouldn't want to do business with either of them at this point.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:23 am to
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It will be interesting how it plays out for both of them. That ship has sailed for me. I wouldn't want to do business with either of them at this point.
Yep, I wouldn’t want to work with either of them.

They are both nuts.

It makes you wonder if they recognize how terribly they have tarnished their brands.
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:27 am to
And if that’s all Depp accomplishes out of this, he’ll see himself as better off and it worth every penny. In his opinion, he’s prosecuting a criminal. Someone who assaulted him in the public eye. It’s like pressing charges in an assault case. And this is an assault that has lasting damage for the rest of his life. He may come out looking better. He may not. He may come out and have more acting opportunities. He may not. But he’s definitely going to prosecute his perpetrator regardless.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 11:29 am
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