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Posted on 5/31/22 at 1:15 pm to rt3
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Emily D. Baker @TheEmilyDBaker
Jury had a question about finding instruction C. Which goes to the Headline and asking if that statement includes the whole op-ed or just the headline statement. Does this mean they are discussing each statement to render verdict...I think so. This is the strongest count for Depp
quote:
Chanley Shá Painter @ChanleyCourtTV
#DeppvsHeard Question pertains to this page of jury instructions, items 1 (the title) & 3
QUESTION: Does question #3 (the statement is false) pertain to the headline or does it to pertain to the content of the op-ed?
ANSWER: The statement is the headline not the entire op-ed
Posted on 5/31/22 at 1:17 pm to crimsonsaint
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#LFGJohnny
Say the jury finds in favor of Depp. Could he sue The Sun again? Can you sue someone twice for the same shite?
I would say no... but I'm not in the UK so I have no idea what happens there
that said... it sounds like the rumblings are growing for her to face perjury charges in the UK for her testimony during The Sun trial
Posted on 5/31/22 at 1:19 pm to rt3
Might play in Ambera favor since she didn't write the headline.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 1:23 pm to Tiger Ryno
quote:
Might play in Ambera favor since she didn't write the headline
But didn’t she publish it? By way of Twitter?
I mean, at least that is how i would view it lol
Posted on 5/31/22 at 1:24 pm to Tiger Ryno
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Might play in Ambera favor since she didn't write the headline.
understand that thought
but then the jury's question would not be about the 'is it false' part (question 3) but rather the 'was it published by Amber' part (question 1)
This post was edited on 5/31/22 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 5/31/22 at 1:25 pm to crimsonsaint
the verdict along with all the new evidence might convince The Sun to consider a retraction and apology at the very least.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 1:30 pm to sugarbuzz
quote:
the verdict along with all the new evidence might convince The Sun to consider a retraction and apology at the very least.
Still wouldn't be sufficient. I hope he continues to go after them.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 1:31 pm to rt3
actually... now that I've looked at it further... that tells me that the jury looking at that page has already decided...
Question 1) "Ms. Heard made or published the following statement: 'Amber Heard: I spoke up against sexual violence - and faced our culture's wrath.'"
with YES
AND
Question 2) "The statement was about Mr. Depp."
with YES
that's the ONLY WAY they should even be CONSIDERING question 3 (it is false) to start with... otherwise they would've moved on long before getting to question 3
Question 1) "Ms. Heard made or published the following statement: 'Amber Heard: I spoke up against sexual violence - and faced our culture's wrath.'"
with YES
AND
Question 2) "The statement was about Mr. Depp."
with YES
that's the ONLY WAY they should even be CONSIDERING question 3 (it is false) to start with... otherwise they would've moved on long before getting to question 3
This post was edited on 5/31/22 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 5/31/22 at 1:31 pm to rt3
That's what I was thinking. I was just too lazy to go look at the jury questions. Thanks!
Posted on 5/31/22 at 1:34 pm to rt3
I hope you're right.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 1:39 pm to rt3
quote:
actually... now that I've looked at it further... that tells me that the jury looking at that page has already decided...
Question 1) "Ms. Heard made or published the following statement: 'Amber Heard: I spoke up against sexual violence - and faced our culture's wrath.'"
with YES
AND
Question 2) "The statement was about Mr. Depp."
with YES
that's the ONLY WAY they should even be CONSIDERING question 3 (it is false) to start with... otherwise they would've moved on long before getting to question 3
Certainly looks favorable to Depp at this point. Hopefully, there will be verdict today, but the day is going quickly.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 1:46 pm to rt3
quote:
I spoke up against sexual violence - and faced our culture's wrath.
There might be a technicality about this being true.
She did speak out against it. But her facing “our culture’s wrath” is sort of up to interpretation if it’s true or not.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 2:17 pm to sugarbuzz
quote:
the verdict along with all the new evidence might convince The Sun to consider a retraction and apology at the very least.
Do they have legal vulnerability to worry about? If so they might have to.
If they don't have vulnerability then they never will.
Whatever the evidence the ideological perspectives that motivated their coverage won't change unless they purge their ideologically motivated employees
Posted on 5/31/22 at 2:33 pm to rt3
Sounds like the jury does not think she proved physical violence of any kind. That alone is enough to vindicate Depp.
Now it’s just a matter of if the jury thinks the headline is defamation towards Depp. I’m not sure how you can’t.
Now it’s just a matter of if the jury thinks the headline is defamation towards Depp. I’m not sure how you can’t.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 2:40 pm to abellsujr
Does anyone know when they would go home today?
Looks like the day ends at 5 eastern. However, if they think they can come up with a verdict then they can extend the time, so I guess it could go longer.
Starting to feel like it may be tomorrow.
Looks like the day ends at 5 eastern. However, if they think they can come up with a verdict then they can extend the time, so I guess it could go longer.
Starting to feel like it may be tomorrow.
This post was edited on 5/31/22 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:27 pm to beauchristopher
Not looking good for a verdict today. No telling what's going on, but based on the question, I'm wondering if they're deciding damages at this point.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:28 pm to Gris Gris
DUI Guy+ said the sketch artist & CourtTV reporter went running into the courthouse... only to say there was a rumor of a verdict that proved to be false
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:45 pm to beauchristopher
quote:
Does anyone know when they would go home today?
If they say they are close, the judge will usually hold them late.
I had one verdict come in about midnight. We were all asleep on the benches when the bailiff woke us up to come in an hear it.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 3:50 pm to JudgeHolden
quote:
Chanley Shá Painter @ChanleyCourtTV
UPDATE: The deputy will knock on the jury room door about 5pmET to inquire what they want to do…
While the judge has told the jury they can stay late it’s not the general practice at this courthouse to let jurors stay into the night. @CourtTV
quote:
Chanley Shá Painter @ChanleyCourtTV
The Judge’s guidance to jurors that she “will not serve dinner” is generally accepted that deliberations will conclude around the dinner hour SHOULD they not reach a verdict tonight..
#DeppvsHeard #AmberHeard #johnnydepp @courttv
so we should be learning something within the next 15 minutes or so
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