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re: The “Dark Forest” theory to explain no evidence of extraterrestrial life

Posted on 9/2/25 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 3:01 pm to
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Dinos are fake and the story was invented to cover up the existence of dragons.


And everyone knows of the great dragon transdemic ultimately caused their demise. Back in the year purple before people fricked everything up with their numbers.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
31432 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 3:04 pm to
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Basically the idea that lots of advanced aliens are out there but they dont broadcast their existence because that would invite other more advanced civilizations to wipe them out before they become a threat.


In a practically infinite universe the other folks are just too far away to matter.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
3828 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 3:08 pm to
We're talking about the Amish, aren't we?
Posted by Artificial Ignorance
Member since Feb 2025
1424 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 3:12 pm to
The aliens are reaching out to us.

That’s not spam email you are getting. Aliens are crying for help through them.

We are too conceited to notice.

All the answers lie/lay/lain (never knew rule here) in decoding spam.
This post was edited on 9/2/25 at 3:13 pm
Posted by PurpleSingularity
Member since Dec 2017
2433 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 3:12 pm to
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But they may be so advanced they can quantum tunnel their way anywhere in the galaxy or even universe instantly


That’s not how it works but I’m happy you enjoy listening to popular science.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34413 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 3:15 pm to
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Thats our assumption but it may be a bad assumption based on our naivety.


My biggest gripe is that humanity on an academic level only ever talks about extra-terrestrial life in the sense that they would have the same biological requirements as us. They are looking for/at planets with an oxygen rich atmosphere, potential for water, in the goldilocks zone, etc. It's the height of human arrogance and egotism.

Maybe we've been scouted many times by many different civilizations with FTL travel but they all just don't bother because oxygen and anything containing oxygen is toxic as frick to them and based on their observations, we'll inevitably wipe ourselves out before we become a threat to them.

I do agree though that unless a species initiates their evolution with really advanced telepathy, it's hard to imagine a civilization not broadcasting radio frequencies in a similar manner to what we have unintentionally before they really grasp what they have been doing.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34413 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 3:17 pm to
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Plus all of the waves we send off Earth as it is without trying to send to another alien civilization. We would have to evolve to the point that we can actually hide ourselves, which requires the forethought and additional advancement, so every civilization can be found in the in between stage we’re in now


what if they are a telepathic civilization and never had the need to develop and transmit radio waves for forms of communication and entertainment like we did?
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34413 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 3:22 pm to
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The whole Yucatan is riddled with cenotes and underground water from the impact.


Those caves are actually one of the more interesting ecosystems on the planet that no one seems to know exists.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18668 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 3:24 pm to
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One day we will encounter alien life but it won't be what you think.


Enlighten us please
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34413 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 3:25 pm to
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gases in the atmosphere that only exist where life is present, etc


life as we know it. I'm on the side of the debate that life out there isn't going to biologically function the same as we do. They may breathe sulfur and expel argon and are only looking for worlds that have the same concentrations they would need.

Just like we do.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
16729 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 3:30 pm to
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We would have to evolve to the point that we can actually hide ourselves, which requires the forethought and additional advancement, so every civilization can be found in the in between stage we’re in now



This reminds me a little of a short story I read some years ago called Avoidance Situation by James V McConnell. In the story mankind kind of lucks into a way of hiding
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 3:38 pm to
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life as we know it. I'm on the side of the debate that life out there isn't going to biologically function the same as we do.


Same. We will never:

1. Know what life is
2. Know what the universe is
3. Encounter or understand other intelligent life

For our entire existence, we’ll take what we don’t understand and conjure what we need to think we understand, through our lens. But we don’t and will never understand.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
10878 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 4:10 pm to
The only reason aliens are interested in Earth is because we party super hard and have some super slutty hoes. Can’t hate them for that.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40513 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 4:29 pm to
I sometimes wonder about the possibility of a system existing with two separate planets of intelligent life and how wild that period had to be when one developed the telescope and realized the existence of the other. And the even lower possibility they reached that period at roughly the same time. That would be pretty tense.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35709 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 4:31 pm to
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In a practically infinite universe the other folks are just too far away to matter.


And the overall size of the universe will never be known, nor could it be reached even if we traveled at light speed forever...this is due to space expanding faster than the speed of light. It's wild to think about.

quote:

Cosmic Event Horizon

That boundary is currently about 16 billion light-years away.
Anything beyond it is forever causally disconnected from us — not only can we never see new signals from there, but if we traveled at light speed, we could never reach it.
Posted by SLCGumpFB25
SLC
Member since Jun 2025
991 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 4:37 pm to
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Those caves are actually one of the more interesting ecosystems on the planet that no one seems to know exists.


Read a great book series on it as a kid. Aliens were in the Yucatan and were the Mayan gods, yada yada.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
35709 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 4:38 pm to
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They may breathe sulfur


There are animals on earth that basically do this already.

But the reason we do it is that we know how life here works and what the chemical and biological signatures of it are. So we look for those same things elsewhere as a way to focus in vs just looking at every single of the billions of planets in our galaxy and assuming that what enables life just doesn't apply anywhere else and it's the Wild West.
Posted by Mouse Finbar
Member since Aug 2025
282 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 5:08 pm to
Scientists know about where this signal orignated, and think it may have been a call for help from a distant civilization.

Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12336 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 5:21 pm to
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Scientists think it may have been a call for help from a distant civilization.

No they actually don’t.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
21884 posts
Posted on 9/2/25 at 5:23 pm to
Fake
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