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re: The Crack Epidemic vs The Opioid Epidemic

Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:18 am to
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76337 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:18 am to
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Probably still have 50+ pills left over from random prescriptions in the last 20 years.


Interesting. On a completely unrelated note, can we be IRL friends?
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17924 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 11:45 am to
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Were doctors prescribing crack to people?

My older brother did gymnastics, broke his nose thrice times from 10-12 years old. Was in fact exposed to pharmaceutical cocaine in one of those procedures. It is a schedule 2 drug, like methamphetamine. They have accepted medical use, even with kids. Dr's can prescribe pharmaceutical grade meth to you at 6. It's called desoxyn.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14159 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 11:55 am to
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During the crack epidemic there were a lot of "crack babies" born. There have been a lot of kids born to heroin addict moms. 


The concept of the "crack baby" was and is a myth. It never happened.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 12:04 pm to
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China is the largest importer of pure meth because it can be produced so cheap and pharma is unregulated. Most of it is purchased by the Mexican cartels and transported into the US through a variety of means


Incorrect.

Cartels purchased psuedoephdrine from China and made meth in large scale super labs.

Recently, cartels have begun to cut the Chinese out and produce their own psuedo ephedrine.

The cartels started flooding the market and drove prices down from 1500-2000 dollars an ounce 8 years ago to around 200-400 dollars an ounce today.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 12:10 pm to
And when it comes to meth....misery loves company.

Most meth addicts get hooked due to friends and partners.

Most addicts I have talked to started using due to girlfriend/boyfriend or close friend using and pressuring them.

It just spreads like weeds and vines.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260654 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 12:18 pm to
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Can someone explain me the Milton Friedman quote a little?


Basically the government gives the black market a market with no legal competition. The laws and regulations we have protect them from legal competition.

If you want to put dealers and cartels on the wane, legalize drugs. The crack market in the 1980's created a lot of street millionaires.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
7869 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 3:14 pm to
I was referring to crack in the 80s. Now meth has completely take over.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34165 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 3:33 pm to
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People blame doctors for the opioid epidemic. No one gave crack heads any sympathy. 


They probably would have if doctors had prescribed crack.

FWIW, I feel for anyone struggling with an addiction.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26797 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 3:53 pm to
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You want to fix the drug epidemic? Free fentanyl but to get it you have to sign an agreement saying you wont be revived.


Yea, my solution to the opioid problem is to legalize drugs , but make Narcan illegal.
Posted by Mr Clean
New Iberia
Member since Aug 2006
49290 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 4:11 pm to
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Don’t know, don’t care. Both are self inflicted, world would a better place if both groups Over dosed.


Don’t come whining for sympathy because you take care of your dad, a-hole
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
11310 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 4:22 pm to
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Don’t come whining for sympathy because you take care of your dad, a-hole



the holier than thou dickbag mentality that some have on here while riding their high horse is kind of annoying.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 5:08 pm to
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Yea, my solution to the opioid problem is to legalize drugs , but make Narcan illegal.


How you even begin to convince yourself of this "logic" is beyond me.

Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28061 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 5:11 pm to
LOL

This is a retarded comparison.

Opiods are being pushed on people by big pharma and Doctors. Doctors are legalized drug pushers. Pushing dangerous shite on people and continuing to push it, writing prescriptions like the shite is candy.

Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37527 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 5:18 pm to
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People blame doctors for the opioid epidemic. No one gave crack heads any sympathy.

I wonder why it’s so different.


Because one was done by personal choice, one was distributed to them by a professional.

One resulted in significant and violent drug wars and upticks in murders, one is not.

That’s why they are viewed differently. Also what was the nations attitude on drugs then compared to now?
This post was edited on 6/16/19 at 5:19 pm
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37527 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 5:25 pm to
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Can someone explain me the Milton Friedman quote a little? I think the war on drugs has been a disaster on every level


Would you think your division a failure of your company kept upping your budget and giving you newer and better equipment/tools every year?
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17040 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 6:04 pm to
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People blame doctors for the opioid epidemic.


It's not all their fault. Heroin was around before oxycontin.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17040 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 6:07 pm to
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The big issue with the crack epidemic was the incredible wave of violence That spread across the country with gangs and their preferred distribution model. The opioid epedimic s nothing like that at all


I dunno, bro. Those Mexican cartels have wreaked havoc in Mexico and are far more vicious than any L.A. street gang in the 80's.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 6:08 pm to
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It's not all their fault. Heroin was around before oxycontin.


It's not. I'd say the majority of the blame lies with pharma.

Yes, heroin was around and there were plenty of opiate addicts already. What's different is that when the big push for pain pills happened, the amount of people that turned to heroin when they couldn't get/afford pills anymore exploded.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17711 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 6:10 pm to
I could answer this but I saw who posted it so no I won’t
Posted by dawgsjw
Member since Dec 2012
2114 posts
Posted on 6/16/19 at 6:11 pm to
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People blame doctors for the opioid epidemic. No one gave crack heads any sympathy.

Drs are mostly white and crack head dealers are mostly black. Pretty simple to see why they went after one and not the other.
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