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The Crack Epidemic vs The Opioid Epidemic

Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:06 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:06 pm
The crack epidemic was between the early 80s - the mid 90s. The opioid epidemic started in the late 90s and continues today.

During the crack epidemic there were a lot of "crack babies" born. There have been a lot of kids born to heroin addict moms.

How much does it affect a baby born from an addicted mother? The crack babies who were born in the early part of the epidemic would have been around the age of 20 in the early 00s.

We are in that period where kids born in the early stages of the opioid epidemic are around that 20 year old mark.

Do a lot of these people have behavior problems or responsible a percentage of crime today?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:13 pm to
People blame doctors for the opioid epidemic. No one gave crack heads any sympathy.

I wonder why it’s so different.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
7869 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:15 pm to
Interesting thought. I know crack has hit suburban white kids as well as intercity blacks. Crazy the first time I heard a wealth white kid 20 say he loved crack
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:17 pm to
Meth is more of a problem IMO.

We just have the numbers on the opioid issue.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75218 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:20 pm to
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The opioid epidemic started in the late 90s and continues today.


Late 90’s? More like 2010-2012
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:21 pm to
Honestly taking pains off the streets brought in more H and now with the H heads dying we just have meth. Meth is everywhere and it sucks. It's hard to find anything else sometimes because your old plug for this or that now helps push meth.
This post was edited on 6/15/19 at 11:22 pm
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:23 pm to
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Late 90’s? More like 2010-2012

Peaked, but pains IMO started being a problem around 2000-2004.

2010-2012 was a high water mark.
This post was edited on 6/15/19 at 11:23 pm
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17179 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:25 pm to
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Meth is more of a problem IMO.

We just have the numbers on the opioid issue.
1900 the addiction rate to drugs was roughly 3% and there were zero restrictions on drugs. Cocaine and opium were sold over the counter or off the shelf.

2010 the addiction rate is still 3% and everything is tightly controlled if not outlawed. We have cartels and mafia's and corruption throughout law enforcement and govt.. Trillions of dollars and countless lives have been wasted on a civil war over chemicals with zero net effect on addiction rates or availability.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260644 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:34 pm to
The big issue with the crack epidemic was the incredible wave of violence That spread across the country with gangs and their preferred distribution model. The opioid epedimic s nothing like that at all
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:34 pm to
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Trillions of dollars and countless lives have been wasted on a civil war over chemicals with zero net effect on addiction rates or availability

Agree.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:36 pm to
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The big issue with the crack epidemic was the incredible wave of violence That spread across the country with gangs and their preferred distribution model. The opioid epedimic s nothing like that at all

If you only knew what sleep deprivation from meth does to ppl. What it makes them do is just as ultra violent.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260644 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:39 pm to
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No one gave crack heads any sympathy.



No one gives meth addicts any sympathy either.
Maybe you should compare those two

Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
11310 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:39 pm to
meth is worse than both in states like Nebraska. People you would have never suspected are addicts or in treatment. Kind of shocking really. Many get into it because they get more work done and make more money
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:40 pm to
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wonder why it’s so different.


More violent crime with the crack epidemic with gang violence, murder/drive by shootings, more of a street corner open air drug market.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260644 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:40 pm to
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If you only knew what sleep deprivation from meth does to ppl.


Yet the homicide rate is nowhere near what it was in the early 90s.
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
11310 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:41 pm to
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People blame doctors for the opioid epidemic. No one gave crack heads any sympathy.

I wonder why it’s so different.



not to bring race into the debate, but when its inner city blacks hooked on crack and killing each other no one cares and would rather just lock them up, but when its well to do suburban whites from the northeast getting hooked on pills then heroin its someone elses fault.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260644 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:42 pm to
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We have cartels and mafia's and corruption throughout law enforcement and govt.. Trillions of dollars and countless lives have been wasted on a civil war over chemicals with zero net effect on addiction rates or availability.



See, if you look at the drug war from a purely economic point of view, the role of the government is to protect the drug cartel. That's literally true.”

-Milton Friedman
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:44 pm to
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Peaked, but pains IMO started being a problem around 2000-2004.


I remember I was prescribed oxy several times in the late 90s while in highschool. Was handed out like candy for simple things like back spasms or sprained wrist.

Probably still have 50+ pills left over from random prescriptions in the last 20 years.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:46 pm to
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meth is worse than both in states like Nebraska. People you would have never suspected are addicts or in treatment. Kind of shocking really. Many get into it because they get more work done and make more money


Sort of like that all over bro.

It's super cheap, easy to cut and transport.

Fckking hate it. Harder to fine the good drugs like white, addys and lsd.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 6/15/19 at 11:47 pm to
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remember I was prescribed oxy several times in the late 90s while in highschool. Was handed out like candy for simple things like back spasms or sprained wrist. 

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