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The coronavirus may not have originated in China, says Oxford professor
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:52 am
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:52 am
The coronavirus may not have originated in China, says Oxford professor
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Dr Tom Jefferson called for investigation into the presence of SARS-CoV-2 in sewage, as traces have been found that pre-date China's first COVID-19 case.
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By Amy Barrett
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The coronavirus may have been lying dormant across the world until emerging under favourable environmental conditions, rather than originating in China, an expert has claimed.
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Dr Tom Jefferson, from the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine (CEBM) at Oxford University, has pointed to a string of recent discoveries of the virus’s presence around the world before it emerged in Asia as growing evidence of its true origin as a global organism that was waiting for favourable conditions to finally emerge.
Traces of COVID-19 have been found in sewage samples from Spain, Italy and Brazil which pre-date its discovery in China. A preprint study, which has not been peer reviewed, claims to have found the presence of SARS-CoV-2 genomes in a Barcelona sewage sample from 12 March 2019.
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In an interview with The Daily Telegraph, Dr Jefferson has called for an investigation into how and why the virus seems to thrive in environments such as food factories and meatpacking plants.
Along with CEBM director Professor Carl Heneghan, Dr Jefferson believes this could potentially uncover new transmission routes, such as through the sewerage system or shared lavatory facilities.
He told the paper: “Strange things like this happened with Spanish Flu. In 1918, around 30 per cent of the population of Western Samoa died of Spanish Flu and they hadn’t had any communication with the outside world." [It is however believed that the Spanish Flu arrived at the island nation in the cargo ship Talune in 1918]
Meatpacking plants are often at 4°C, which is the ideal temperature for the coronavirus to be stabled
Dr Tom Jefferson, University of Oxford
“The explanation could only be that these agents don’t come or go anywhere. They are always here and something ignites them, maybe human density or environmental conditions, and this is what we should look for," said Jefferson.
“There is quite a lot of evidence of huge amounts of the virus in sewage all over the place, and an increasing amount of evidence there is faecal transmission.
“There is a high concentration where sewage is 4°C, which is the ideal temperature for it to be stabled and presumably activated. And meatpacking plants are often at 4°C.
“These outbreaks need to be investigated properly".
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Dr Tom Jefferson called for investigation into the presence of SARS-CoV-2 in sewage, as traces have been found that pre-date China's first COVID-19 case.
4 hours ago
By Amy Barrett
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The coronavirus may have been lying dormant across the world until emerging under favourable environmental conditions, rather than originating in China, an expert has claimed.
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Dr Tom Jefferson, from the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine (CEBM) at Oxford University, has pointed to a string of recent discoveries of the virus’s presence around the world before it emerged in Asia as growing evidence of its true origin as a global organism that was waiting for favourable conditions to finally emerge.
Traces of COVID-19 have been found in sewage samples from Spain, Italy and Brazil which pre-date its discovery in China. A preprint study, which has not been peer reviewed, claims to have found the presence of SARS-CoV-2 genomes in a Barcelona sewage sample from 12 March 2019.
Advertisement
Read more about coronavirus in sewage:
Second wave of coronavirus could be spotted in sewage
Coronavirus: Scottish sewage tested to track spread of COVID-19
In an interview with The Daily Telegraph, Dr Jefferson has called for an investigation into how and why the virus seems to thrive in environments such as food factories and meatpacking plants.
Along with CEBM director Professor Carl Heneghan, Dr Jefferson believes this could potentially uncover new transmission routes, such as through the sewerage system or shared lavatory facilities.
He told the paper: “Strange things like this happened with Spanish Flu. In 1918, around 30 per cent of the population of Western Samoa died of Spanish Flu and they hadn’t had any communication with the outside world." [It is however believed that the Spanish Flu arrived at the island nation in the cargo ship Talune in 1918]
Meatpacking plants are often at 4°C, which is the ideal temperature for the coronavirus to be stabled
Dr Tom Jefferson, University of Oxford
“The explanation could only be that these agents don’t come or go anywhere. They are always here and something ignites them, maybe human density or environmental conditions, and this is what we should look for," said Jefferson.
“There is quite a lot of evidence of huge amounts of the virus in sewage all over the place, and an increasing amount of evidence there is faecal transmission.
“There is a high concentration where sewage is 4°C, which is the ideal temperature for it to be stabled and presumably activated. And meatpacking plants are often at 4°C.
“These outbreaks need to be investigated properly".
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:53 am to Dandy Lion
How much did China give this dude to write this
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:54 am to Dandy Lion
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Dr Tom Jefferson
I ain’t listening to no slave owner.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:54 am to geauxtigers87
i think it's all based off that one sample from Barcelona, when otherwise it just would mean this virus was out earlier than we originally thought (via China)
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:55 am to Dandy Lion
Im guessing Beijing wired some money into his swiss bank account
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 11:55 am
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:56 am to Dandy Lion
quote:Originated in China
Spanish Flu
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:56 am to Dandy Lion
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Holy copy and paste Batman. You couldn’t edit out some of the adds?
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 11:58 am
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:58 am to Dandy Lion
We’ve moved from Spanish sewage to Scottish sewage now. Creatively moving things further west. I wonder whose sewage they will say coronavirus originated in next? Hmmm...
Posted on 7/6/20 at 12:00 pm to High C
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I wonder whose sewage they will say coronavirus originated in next? Hmmm...
New York in Trump Tower.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 12:02 pm to Dandy Lion
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increasing amount of evidence there is faecal transmission.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 12:02 pm to Dandy Lion
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Dr Tom Jefferson, from the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine (CEBM) at Oxford University
quote:
“These outbreaks need to be investigated properly".

Posted on 7/6/20 at 12:04 pm to geauxtigers87
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How much did China give this dude to write this
And it doesn't even make sense. China isn't getting blamed for it originating there as much as they are getting blamed for their actions, inaction, and deceit in handling it.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 12:04 pm to Dandy Lion
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Traces of COVID-19 have been found in sewage samples from Spain, Italy and Brazil
International sewage sample collector has to rank pretty highly on the list of worst jobs.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 12:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i think it's all based off that one sample from Barcelona, when otherwise it just would mean this virus was out earlier than we originally thought (via China)
Or it was a false positive.
A frick ton about covid has been politicized, but I’m pretty sure no liberal or conservative is arguing it didn’t come from a China wet market.
Even the Netflix documentary about it from Vox says it came from China. They even show that scientists tracked this virus in bats years ago, but marked it as not a threat because they didn’t foresee it mutating to infect humans.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 12:08 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
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increasing amount of evidence there is faecal transmission.
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faecal
fricking Brits don't even know how to spell.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 12:08 pm to Dandy Lion
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Traces of COVID-19 have been found in sewage samples from Spain, Italy and Brazil
Do Chinese nationals not live in these countries?
Posted on 7/6/20 at 12:17 pm to Dandy Lion
It’ll get blamed on a white dude
Posted on 7/6/20 at 12:19 pm to Dandy Lion
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A preprint study, which has not been peer reviewed
Key sentence.
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