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re: The circle of COVID. Unvaccinated better equipped to defeat looming Lamda variant
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:20 am to RobbBobb
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:20 am to RobbBobb
I’m surprised the article didn’t make clear or at least more obvious with respect to lambda being vaccine-resistant that 1) the study referenced investigated CoronaVac (Chinese), which is a traditional neutralized-virus vaccine and not an mRNA vaccine and already has generally been shown to not be nearly as effective as mRNA vaccines, and 2) that results in a lab don’t always equate to results in a human (for example a Petri dish wouldn’t have t-cells)
Articles written like this muddy the waters and mess with people’s emotions for clicks.
Articles written like this muddy the waters and mess with people’s emotions for clicks.
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Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:25 am to Privateer 2007
Employer mandate. Happened to my daughter and it honestly worries me despite her not having a single comorbidity.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:26 am to Bwmdx
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And yet China is virus free with no reported deaths even from the delta variant.
You don't think for a second that China doesn't have an antidote/vaccine for this do you? You don't produce a bioweapon without working on the antidote to go along with it.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:28 am to lsujunky
quote:Also for anyone to trust the numbers out of China would be a mistake. They have complete control of their narrative and absolutely should never be trusted.
You don't think for a second that China doesn't have an antidote/vaccine for this do you? You don't produce a bioweapon without working on the antidote to go along with it.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:33 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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Though interestingly, the reinfection rate due to delta may have been 9% higher for vaccine vs natural immunity. Of course, reinfection is extremely low so this may be an immaterial difference.
Honestly how do we really know the numbers for reinfection after vaccine? Is it estimated based on what we know about the virus or is it based on vaccinated people actually being tested for Covid?
If the later, are researchers confident that vaccinated people with minor symptoms are getting tested? Would it be a good assumption vaccinated folks even with a mild fever would immediately assume it was Covid (maybe they would as of today but would they have in late May/early June with Delta variant became prevalent? Also would the hospitals/urgent care have even tested a person who came in with relatively minor symptoms looking for treatment?
I totally get vaccinated people aren’t getting hospitalized. The question is to what extent are they contributing to the spread. Reviewing the Rt data, it seems that the Rt curves for highly vaccinated places and low vaccination places are very similar. In high vaccination areas, wouldn’t that # be lower if the vaccine does a good job limiting the spread? I’m truly asking bc maybe I’m missing something.
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 7:36 am
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:36 am to RobbBobb
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** One also has to wonder why the border is still wide open?
Just another opportunity the Biden admin has to frick over conservatives.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:41 am to The Boat
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What a badass bioweapon
Makes one wonder if the new strains are being “accidentally released” since they couldn’t stop the first version. They were obviously trying with all their might and security from day one to stop it then too I’m SURE!
This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 7:42 am
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:44 am to Bwmdx
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And yet China is virus free with no reported deaths even from the delta variant.
Same with border crossers
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:47 am to mmmmmbeeer
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Vaccine, no vaccine, masks, no masks. Whatever the case may be....this isn't good news. Article says these papers haven't been peer-reviewed but....yeah, not good for anyone. Less than a year and we're seeing MAJOR mutations?
You are such a cuck and the exact type of person that buys all the fear porn
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:52 am to rocket31
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most of these people are not smart enough to reach this inevitable conclusion
"just keep getting jabbed for your community bro" "you're still contagious with the vaccine but it's for the greater good bro"
honk honk
I agree. There is no off ramp for these idiots. Are we suppose to get boosters and go into lockdowns for the rest of time? What is the end goal?
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:52 am to stout
If this is all true then I am sure the spin will be that the mutations are all bc of the unvaccinated. Forgetting again who put us in this mess to begin with and who is clearly at fault for all of this!
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:53 am to rocket31
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what an insane comment
Well, Korkstand is insane so...
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:53 am to stout
Im still on the fence about getting the vaccine...
The constant cycle of everchanging news is not making my decision easier.
The constant cycle of everchanging news is not making my decision easier.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:53 am to LNCHBOX
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Masking objectively didn't work. Yet here we are under a state wide mandate again.
And now K-12 kids. If anything…the masks are going to make it spread worse with the little kids.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:55 am to ithad2bme
Shhh TD wants to call people fearful for using what tools we got. Don't talk sense.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:57 am to RobbBobb
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Researchers found those recovering from COVID (while remaining unvaxed) have immune system antibodies that evolved, becoming more potent and better able to resist new variants
I just read the article. You added the bold part yourself.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:59 am to Fusaichi Pegasus
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The constant cycle of everchanging news is not making my decision easier.
I contracted Covid on Good Friday of this year. I have no idea if I still have antibodies currently, but I also am pretty sure that a weaker variant like Delta won't get me if the OG didn't. Now if a stronger variant comes along that is proven to be treated by the vaccine, then I will consider it.
I have no known lasting effects from the first time I had Covid so why risk it with there being some bad shite happening to people taking the vaccine? Especially when we are seeing that it may not be effective against the variants.
Like I have said, I may be one of the guys you see on the news story about dying of Covid while being against the jab but for my position my decision makes sense as of now.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:59 am to stout
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You are such a cuck and the exact type of person that buys all the fear porn
Tell me you're in the right wing echo chamber without telling me you're in the right wing echo chamber.
Idiot.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:00 am to RobbBobb
Stop trying to steal Delta’s thunder. Plenty of time for Lamba once the fear of Delta has run it’s course.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:01 am to STEVED00
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I totally get vaccinated people aren’t getting hospitalized. The question is to what extent are they contributing to the spread. Reviewing the Rt data, it seems that the Rt curves for highly vaccinated places and low vaccination places are very similar. In high vaccination areas, wouldn’t that # be lower if the vaccine does a good job limiting the spread? I’m truly asking bc maybe I’m missing something.
Stop making sense and using facts. You are ruining the unvaccinated narrative.
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