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The circle of COVID. Unvaccinated better equipped to defeat looming Lamda variant

Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:42 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:42 pm
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Some terrifying bullet points from this Reuters update:


* Lambda now spreading in So. America** is highly infectious and more resistant to vaccines than the original version of the virus

* Researchers found those recovering from COVID (while remaining unvaxed) have immune system antibodies that evolved, becoming more potent and better able to resist new variants

* Rockefeller Univ. reported fully-vaccinated people who never had COVID, will not get antibodies that neutralize new variants, from a 3rd dose of an mRNA vaccine

* mRNA vaccines begin to wane by the 5th month, and their antibodies show "little measurable improvement" in the ability to neutralize a broad variety of new variants

* 3 mutations in Lambda's spike protein help it resist neutralization by vaccine-induced antibodies. 2 additional mutations help make Lambda highly infectious

* Senior researcher Kei Sato of the Univ. of Tokyo, "Lambda can be a potential threat to the human society."


** One also has to wonder why the border is still wide open?
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:43 pm to
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Researchers found those recovering from COVID (while remaining unvaxed) have immune system antibodies that evolved, becoming more potent and better able to resist new variants


Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164267 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:43 pm to
What a badass bioweapon
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
2763 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:45 pm to
And yet China is virus free with no reported deaths even from the delta variant.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54369 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:46 pm to
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And yet China is virus free with no reported deaths even from the delta variant.

Never, ever trust the CCP.
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
11303 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:46 pm to
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
6195 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:48 pm to
Regardless.
I simply don't understand people who had the virus getting vaccinated.

It just boggles my mind.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27935 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:48 pm to
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And yet China is virus free with no reported deaths even from the delta variant.

I dont think they used mRNA vaccines, did they?
Posted by SouthernStyled
Member since Apr 2021
1307 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:49 pm to
Y'all realize we are on our way to Omega, right? As in, the end?
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67940 posts
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Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15811 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:50 pm to
I asked my doctor today about getting the vaccine and he said I should. I then told him I had covid in November and how does having it before vs getting vaccine now protect me any better.

He didn’t go into details but did mention there could be a benefit from having covid before kinda like getting the jab now.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 11:05 pm
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7431 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:50 pm to
Vaccine, no vaccine, masks, no masks. Whatever the case may be....this isn't good news. Article says these papers haven't been peer-reviewed but....yeah, not good for anyone. Less than a year and we're seeing MAJOR mutations?
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
2763 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:53 pm to
It will keep going until there are no more old, fat or infirm.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
15898 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:53 pm to
1,3,4,2

At least on the first go round.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 10:54 pm
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18670 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:54 pm to
I had Covid last month. My doc said not to worry about the vaccine anytime soon. She even offered to write a letter in case I ran into any “proof of vaccination” type issues.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:55 pm to
yeah, we dont have the data or the control group to determine if natural immunity is superior but it seems like a reasonable assumption

anyway, with lambda and delta plus, people are going to start getting anxious and begging for lockdowns again, especially if these variants can circumvent the vaccine.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27935 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:55 pm to
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Less than a year and we're seeing MAJOR mutations?

I've read two theories on that, bio-engineered to mutate, or the vaccine antibodies have forced the mutations.
Posted by Vastmind
B Ara
Member since Sep 2013
4992 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:56 pm to
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I asked my doctor today about getting the vaccine and he said I should. I then told him I had covid in November and how does having it before vs getting vaccine now protect me any better.


So far it’s been shown that natural immunity may last at least 11 months.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28435 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:57 pm to
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* One also has to wonder why the border is still wide open?

Biden is bringing Lambda into the US via infected illegals aliens to follow up on delta. Time to overthrow.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6498 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:58 pm to
Who is your doctor? I need to go there
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