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re: "The best tobacco you never heard of comes from St. James Parish"

Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:25 am to
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1488 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:25 am to
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only one farm grows it in St. James,


Not true. Even at its worst there were still at least a couple other farmers, but it’s definitely waaaay more than just one now.

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fake perique using kentucky tobacco


Most of the flavor comes from the fermenting process. I won’t say ALL of it, but definitely most.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18809 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:26 am to
Our kids love it. It's all they'll smoke when they can get it. Makes good stocking stuffers.
Posted by nopants
Luling, La
Member since Aug 2006
886 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:01 am to
Is that liquer even sold in the US? I've looked for it for years but everywhere I've asked doesn't even know what it is, much less have it in stock.

And yes, I realize that linked site ships to the US - was wondering if any local distributors carry it.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17919 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:13 am to
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Perique Tobacco is far from the best. It's used to "cut" better more expensive tobaccos.



Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4710 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:34 am to
The American Spirit cigs in the black pack are perique tobacco. It's really strong tasting.
Posted by RaginSaint43
Member since Dec 2016
2006 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:24 am to
I like Perique when it’s cut. I smoke pipes daily and if I have any type of Perique it’s always cut.

A while back a guy I knew had a bag of straight Perique that he used to blend. I put me a bowl of it just to see what it’s like by itself. I took two puffs and almost vomited all over. It’s some strong crap by itself.
Posted by Mr Clean
New Iberia
Member since Aug 2006
49486 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:25 am to
I quit smoking 3 weeks ago
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:55 am to
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Perique Tobacco is far from the best. It's used to "cut" better more expensive tobaccos.

I've smoked Perique in blends for decades. one part in twenty is about right. It is used as flavoring - like you'd use Worcester sauce, or your favorite steak sauce. It also cuts the "bite" of some other tobaccos.

Not surprising that one poster mentioned that there are fake Periques out there. The last stuff I bought (at a high price) was not good - likely fake or heavily cut.

And thanks to the many posters with great comments - much more great info than I hoped for when I posted this.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 11:03 am to
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All of the tobacco grown there is sold to either Mark Ryan or the Martin’s. There aren’t any independents any more. Ryan owns the Daughters & Ryan tobacco company that makes all sorts of blends and products from it. All of the Martin inventory is sold to American Spirit for their cigarettes.
Very cool. I did not know that they had a direct connection with the Perique growers. Thanks.

I've used D&R's Virginia blend as a base for years. No preservatives, and is a about as mellow a tobacco as I can find. D&R calls their Virginia blend "Three Sails".


Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9648 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 11:27 am to
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Perique Tobacco is far from the best. It's used to "cut" better more expensive tobaccos.


I have no idea where you are getting that from but when it comes to premium pipe tobacco, you are 100% wrong.

I am an avid tobacco pipe smoker and pipe collector with over 40 lbs of the best pipe tobacco available on the planet in my cellar. Virginia/Perique (VaPers) blends are among the most popular in the world. Some with as much as 25-30% perique to 70-75% Virginia leaf. I love blends with perique. They can have a peppery or figgy/raising note that adds a wonderful touch.
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
5128 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 11:38 am to
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Most of the flavor comes from the fermenting process. I won’t say ALL of it, but definitely most.



I used to know a guy who's uncle was a grower in St. James Parish. He said the same, that most of the unique flavor came from the handling or fermenting of the product and not any unique soil or strain of tobacco.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 11:40 am
Posted by TigerGyp
Lafayette
Member since May 2006
975 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 11:43 am to
Drew Estates make a cigar called "Dirt" that contains some perique. Good smoke.
Posted by Doctor Strangelove
Member since Feb 2018
2964 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 11:49 am to
“Distinct Flavor”, I wonder if it’s due to being pressure packed in whiskey?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 12:00 pm to
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“Distinct Flavor”, I wonder if it’s due to being pressure packed in whiskey?
Don't think there is any whiskey involved - except for the fact that the tobacco is fermented in old oak whiskey barrels. All the juices of the tobacco are pressed out - then the pressed tobacco is aged in the tobaccos own juices for a year or so.

[edit - oak pressing blocks and aged in old hickory whisky barrels]
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 2:27 pm
Posted by MojoGuyPan
Intercession City, Florida
Member since Jun 2018
2797 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 12:01 pm to
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grower in St. James Parish. He said the same, that most of the unique flavor came from the handling or fermenting of the product and not any unique soil or strain of tobacco.


That might be true but there still is a difference between the St. James red burley and the Kentucky green river burley processed which is supposedly processed and fermented the same way. I'd go with real perique over green river.

I used to blend my own VA-Perique pipe tobacco and the real perique made a difference but I was heavy handed with the Perique.

Pro-Tip - smoking a bowl of straight perique is a good cure for constipation.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6795 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 12:43 pm to
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I have no idea where you are getting that from but when it comes to premium pipe tobacco, you are 100% wrong.


I grew up in that area. It has always been known that no one smokes perique alone because it's too harsh. It is alway blended with other tobaccos as a filler
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
18401 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 12:48 pm to
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57343 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 1:02 pm to
Picayune Cigarettes were made from Perique tobacco. Those little, non-filtered, smokes were some hard nails, buddy!

Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6795 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 1:06 pm to
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Picayune Cigarettes were made from Perique tobacco. Those little, non-filtered, smokes were some hard nails, buddy!


Try to smoke one too quickly and you'd be throwing your guts up.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57343 posts
Posted on 4/23/19 at 1:09 pm to
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Try to smoke one too quickly and you'd be throwing your guts up.


Yes. You are correct.
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