re: The attack on this country is hitting all institutions

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The battlefield has changed, and we're still equipped to fight wars like it's 1945.

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Huh?

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So do you think the majority of the people you don't agree with on these stances are doing these things. Because they aren't.

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No, but it’s the spirit behind every bit of it.

There’s an enormous difference in between peacefully protesting in favor of police reforms or demanding higher qualifications for police along with perhaps more pay, etc, and demanding defunding the police and stopping them from doing their jobs, or attacking the police, or even doing as racists do and equate all police with the lowest common denominator that happened to have snuck into the police.


There’s an enormous difference in between peacefully gathering to show your outrage and looting, vandalizing, destroying public property, and attacking people based on the color of their skin.

There is also an enormous difference in ALL OF THAT which comes from Floyd, and telling people they have to kneel or they are cancelled, silencing people’s free speech and interpreting what they are saying as racist by default rather than listening with your ears what they are actually saying and giving them the latitude to do just that without condemning them, attacking historical statues, flags, States, firing people, etc, and ALL IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE...


There’s no justice in any of that, and so there’s not place for that in America. Not one person is justifying what was done to Floyd on either side of this argument, but only one side is justifying the wholesale destruction of this country, and it’s not mine, that’s a fact.

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An arrest I don't fully agree with based on the video I saw, by the way.

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What do you suggest the officers did instead?

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In fairness I think he's saying he's not fully on board with the charges against the officers (could be wrong).

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Correct.

Though I will say I'm not completely comfortable with my position given that he was shot twice in the back. I don't think that case is as cut & dry as the George Floyd one is.

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If we can vote out a lot of the politicians that are allowing it, we have a chance to stop it but if we vote them back in or more like them (Democrat Senators, Governors, Mayors) then we are in trouble. It's imperative that we show our displeasure at the polls in the next 2 elections, presidential and next in 2 years (Isn't the Congressional in 2 years?) I don't know, may be wrong at that second part but either way,

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Take the Mississippi senate and congressional elections from earlier this year to last year for
example. You had Chris McDaniel who would have made a lot of noise in the senate standing up for traditional conservative values, help the Trump agenda along, etc, but what did we do? We sent Cindy Hyde smith back up there. Just a quiet, little old lady who does what she’s told. Additionally, James Tulp ran for a congressional seat, same mold as McDaniel, and he lost to a rino.
My point is this: even conservative voting blocs don’t know their politics or what they stand for anymore than dyed in the wool Dems. True conservatism is overshadowed by rinos who say nothing during culture wars as long as they keep sending money to the state. White suburban rinos are really starting to chap my a s s as bad as Liberals have been.

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I'm not really sure what's subjective or debatable in my post.

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Lots, really. But as I’ve come to find out in recent months, most of these debates lead to nowhere because neither side can find common ground. I disagree with much of your post on a fundamental level, but it’s really not even worth discussing because I don’t expect to change your mind, and I don’t expect you will change mine. We see the world differently in a number of ways.

And I don’t really have the energy to go through the whole left vs right, rioters vs police argument with you when I know it is just going to be a waste of time for us both. Agree to disagree.

Just being honest. I see the points you make, and I understand your mindset. I just see it differently.