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re: The age of vehicles on the road says a lot about the economic status of your area
Posted on 10/10/25 at 11:58 am to TigersHuskers
Posted on 10/10/25 at 11:58 am to TigersHuskers
You’re right man. Porsche has a year+ long waitlist for 150-200k 911s because all the poor people trying to finance them for 7 years.
Btw, you’re a blue collar, divorced before 30 alcoholic. I don’t think you have the bonafides to comment on how the financially successful spend their money.
Btw, you’re a blue collar, divorced before 30 alcoholic. I don’t think you have the bonafides to comment on how the financially successful spend their money.
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Posted on 10/10/25 at 11:59 am to Dixie2023
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These days the smart folks drive older cars or keep what they have and will drive it into the ground. Only a fool will pay today’s prices.
Average vehicle price is just under 50K. That’s unreal. A dumbass posted a thread a couple of weeks ago about inflation being worse from 1975-2000 than 2000-2025. Maybe in some things but statistics for housing prices, healthcare, and car prices are through the roof over the last 25 years. Those are probably the 3 biggest expenses.
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1975-2000 Year Inflation-Adjusted Average
1975 $29,700
1980 $26,400
1985 $23,400
1990 $34,100
1995 $42,600
2000 $35,200
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2000-2025 Year Inflation-Adjusted Average
2000 $35,200
2005 $38,100
2010 $36,000
2015 $45,700
2020 $49,000
2025 $48,800
Posted on 10/10/25 at 12:00 pm to travelgamer
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Think 80's idiot.
And then the boring, predictable insult.
Do you think that $63k in any year from 1980 -1989 is worth the same as $63k today?
I can tell you based on the calculator above that $63k in 1989 is the same as $164,600 today.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 12:02 pm to weagle1999
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I can tell you based on the calculator above that $63k in 1989 is the same as $164,600 today.
And have wages increased at the same rate, tell us what an F-150 In creased during that time.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 12:08 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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You’re right man. Porsche has a year+ long waitlist for 150-200k 911s because all the poor people trying to finance them for 7 years.
Btw, you’re a blue collar, divorced before 30 alcoholic. I don’t think you have the bonafides to comment on how the financially successful spend their money.
Thanks for telling us you are insecure as frick and have a tiny dick that doesn't work anymore.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 12:10 pm to SludgeFactory
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I am doing my damndest to teach smart spending to my kids and rule number 1 is do not buy a new car, ever, if possible. Buy a used one in great condition with low mileage and pay it off as fast as possible because you are burning money. Buy a Toyota or another brand that will go 200K miles and drive that car into the ground. That's what I am doing. 2013 model with 120K miles and I plan on keeping it another 12 years if I can. Frick that.
That strategy was sound 10-30 years ago but the market has changed. Cars don't depreciate like they used to. Gently used cars, especially for reliable makes and models, are crazy expensive these days. And they come with all sorts of fees and bad financing. New cars may include incentives, better financing, more wiggle room on price negotiation plus the manufacturer and dealer warranties.
I'm not saying buying new is the wiser financial option just that the distinction is a lot closer and more complicated than it used to be - enough to where the perks may be worth the difference, especially for someone who spends a lot of their time in a car and places a premium on that experience. That's not me - I always drive a beater and could care less, but I see the landscape shifting.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 12:11 pm to Dixie2023
quote:this. I’m about to have to swap from a fleet vehicle to a vehicle allowance . Company said any vehicle is fine. Wife was going to get something new anyway. I’m going to take her car (110,000 miles) . Now, I’m basically going to get paid to drive a car already paid off. Thank you!
These days the smart folks drive older cars or keep what they have and will drive it into the ground. Only a fool will pay today’s prices.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 12:14 pm to weagle1999
My wife (no pics) still drives the Camry she got when she was 16 (we turn 31 this month). It has 185k miles and I hope to get 300k out of it. No bluetooth, no backup camera or any of that fancy BS, and most importantly no payment and insurance is cheap as hell. When we visit home some folks give us shite for still driving the car she had in high school and it honesty gives me a good feeling inside knowing we probably out earn most of those people who are driving Denalis and AT4s with $1k+ payments.
I drove a 2003 explorer until it bit the dust in 2020. "upgraded" to a 2005 explorer eddie bauer that got ruined by hurricane sally later that year. Ended up getting a 2020 4runner because I always wanted one, and we've modded it as a camping rig that we've taken all over the country and seen places we never would have otherwise, and plan on holding onto it forever.
I drove a 2003 explorer until it bit the dust in 2020. "upgraded" to a 2005 explorer eddie bauer that got ruined by hurricane sally later that year. Ended up getting a 2020 4runner because I always wanted one, and we've modded it as a camping rig that we've taken all over the country and seen places we never would have otherwise, and plan on holding onto it forever.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 12:18 pm to evil cockroach
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this. I’m about to have to swap from a fleet vehicle to a vehicle allowance . Company said any vehicle is fine. Wife was going to get something new anyway. I’m going to take her car (110,000 miles) . Now, I’m basically going to get paid to drive a car already paid off. Thank you!
I get an allowance but the car can’t be older than 10 years and must be 4 door. It’s nice when those tax free checks hit every month. Once my 23 is paid off I’ll just save the money for a down payment for my next one in 2033.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 12:23 pm to weagle1999
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weagle1999
Look at this a-hole.
I drove an '04 Colorado that I bought brand new for 13 years and 800 miles shy of 300K until the tranny died. Best vehicle I've ever had and frick you for thinking that has anything to do with my economic status.
This post was edited on 10/10/25 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 10/10/25 at 12:23 pm to travelgamer
I decided to research what the most reliable vehicle in the last 30 years was. I came across the Toyota Landcruiser and its variants. I got a GX470 and did the timing belt right away then just put 460 brakes on it and an upgraded radio and I'm good to go. It has a ton of optiins and the full time 4x4 is nice.
I still want a Landcruiser but this Landcruiser Prado clone will do for now.
It was me falling in love with the Toyota Fortuner (No not 4runner) in Colombia that pushed me to one of these. Figured i would daily it for a year or two then make it an overland rig.
I still want a Landcruiser but this Landcruiser Prado clone will do for now.
It was me falling in love with the Toyota Fortuner (No not 4runner) in Colombia that pushed me to one of these. Figured i would daily it for a year or two then make it an overland rig.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 12:31 pm to weagle1999
quote:Neither am I. At the end of the day, both of us are using anecdotes, but what's not antecdotal is the actual numbers: the average American in their financed $120,000 suvs aren't going to financial advisors either because they've no expendable income because they're losing their asses on their vehicles for the sake of vanity – so that people like you can assume they've a high economic status.
I’m not making this observation (for my area) in a vacuum. I see the people driving most of this stuff and they aren’t headed to see financial advisors.
We paid cash for cars for years so that we could pay cash for real estate. If you saw me driving one of my used vehicles covered in sweat and dust after a long day 10 years ago, you'd of probably thought I wasn't going to a financial advisor either, and you'd be wrong. I know people (and I mean, "know" know) who are worth hundreds of millions of dollars and they drive 5 year old F150s as their daily.
The average Joe who's making $50k/ year and driving a 2026 GMC Denali is carrying massive debt on stupid shite. Objectively, factually, that average Joe's economic status is one layoff away from financial collapse, not freedom.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 12:35 pm to mudshuvl05
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who are worth hundreds of millions of dollars and they drive 5 year old F150s as their daily.
Right, but they aren’t driving 30 year Sport Tracs with busted suspensions. Or any of the other jalopies I see rattling around.
But you are correct, we are both using anecdotes and I could be wrong about some things. Anyway, hope you have a great weekend
Posted on 10/10/25 at 12:51 pm to weagle1999
quote:Yes, I suppose I missed the part where there are levels to it.
Right, but they aren’t driving 30 year Sport Tracs with busted suspensions. Or any of the other jalopies I see rattling around.
Other than my '99 single cab yota with co-op grip spurs that a tree fell on and that I still use to go through any hole and trail that a side by side will go on, we never drove unsafe, unreliable, embarrassingly bad rat infested shitboxes. To be fair, the Tonka toy truck Toyota looks pretty good when cleaned up considering a 20" white oak fell across the bed.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 1:15 pm to TigersHuskers
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Thanks for telling us you are insecure as frick and have a tiny dick that doesn't work anymore.
“You have to be seriously financially irresponsible to buy a nice car”
- guy who pays hundreds of dollars a month in alimony after failing to curb his drug addiction in time for his wife to give him another chance.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 1:18 pm to weagle1999
Almost every vehicle can be converted to CarPlay now.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 1:20 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Getting my popcorn poppin!!! This is gonna get good!!
Posted on 10/10/25 at 1:22 pm to mudshuvl05
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The average Joe who's making $50k/ year and driving a 2026 GMC Denali
You know any people who make 50k a year driving an 80k truck?
You’re basing your argument around a group of people who are in the extreme minority, yet framing it as if they are “average”. It’s a myth.
For every poor person you see driving around in a newer “nice” car, there are literally hundreds if not thousands you never notice in their beat up altima, 15 year old f150 or paint faded honda.
This post was edited on 10/10/25 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 10/10/25 at 1:33 pm to weagle1999
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That hasn’t been my experience visiting affluent areas
Well sure. There are those who are super wealthy and buy everything new, and then there are those who are wealthy and not trying to flout it (and that's how they got wealthy). You'll find a lot more of the latter floating around than the former.
Posted on 10/10/25 at 1:37 pm to weagle1999
I see a lot of cybertrucks
This post was edited on 10/10/25 at 1:38 pm
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