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re: The 20th anniv of Katrina is a month away. Does it still haunt you or did you make peace?
Posted on 7/28/25 at 7:56 pm to LemmyLives
Posted on 7/28/25 at 7:56 pm to LemmyLives
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We got the hotels part.
I meant condos
The convention center, Superdome and Smoothie King Center is booked year round along with all the cruise ships coming in and out on a daily basis.
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 8:00 pm to Geaux Piggins Geaux
My grandma lived thru all those 50s-60s Hurricanes- Betsy, Camille- and Katrina is the only one that rattles her. They had just moved to Mississippi and rode out the store in their home in the middle of nowhere & the eye passed right over them.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 8:00 pm to profdillweed
Take a look at how much money cities throw at organizations to get them to hold conventions. It's not free, and it's not by accident. If the North American Auto show won't pay, there's always the Girl Scouts of Southern Mississippi that will book your rooms.
Cruise ships.
Cruise ships.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 8:00 pm to profdillweed
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The burden of proof is on you. You made the claim.
Prove it.
It was talked about here when the article was first published. He isn't just bullshitting.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 8:03 pm to Geaux Piggins Geaux
When those NO kids showed up in our high school in SETX they started numerous fights. Straight thug behaviors.
In regards to hurricanes it was Rita a month later that devastated us. Never seen so many trees down in my life. Totally felt inept, had money in my pockets but it was useless. No stores open, no power, just miserable with 100+ temps. Money was merely printed paper. Existence was based on the generosity of others. Thank you to those who helped. I remember the whole FEMA debacle.
In regards to hurricanes it was Rita a month later that devastated us. Never seen so many trees down in my life. Totally felt inept, had money in my pockets but it was useless. No stores open, no power, just miserable with 100+ temps. Money was merely printed paper. Existence was based on the generosity of others. Thank you to those who helped. I remember the whole FEMA debacle.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 8:08 pm to Jake88
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List the wrongs and how they'd be fixed.
Hell, where do I start?
Education
Infrastructure
Subsidence
Flood control
Crime/Law Enforcement
Politics
Industry (or lack thereof)
If I knew how to fix them, I wouldn't be a dumbass posting on TD. I do kno the way to fix them is not go back to exactly what we were doing before. That obviously wasn't working.
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Who? What unlimited budget?
There was a five year period where all you had to do was mention "Katrina" in a grant, and gobs money appeared out of no where. I know because I wrote my fair share. Then, once we got the money, we brought people in from all over the world to help us solve problems. Then, after solutions were crafted, the money for implementation was given to some dude's cousin or let expire or spent on a council person's pet project or half a dozen other ways to light money on fire.
The city is still sinking. Pumps are still not working. The schools are still failing. Politicians are still corrupt. Police are still useless. Crime is still high. The city is still known (and marketed) more for getting blasted on Bourbon than any particular industry.
The only things we've fixed are the outfall canals and MRGO.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 8:13 pm to Geaux Piggins Geaux
All I know is, BR began its downward spiral as a result of Katrina.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 8:17 pm to Geaux Piggins Geaux
It's amazing how much it changed BR. More activity, people, and yeah unfortunately crime for a time
Posted on 7/28/25 at 8:18 pm to LemmyLives
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the North American Auto show won't pay,
Was held in NOLA in January 2025
Posted on 7/28/25 at 8:19 pm to cypresstiger
This is fact….
Posted on 7/28/25 at 8:20 pm to BottomlandBrew
I realize I’m not going to convince you, but I’ll at least respond to a couple of your points:
This can’t be changed with a grant of money. Katrina or not.
Inexcusable, no defense from me here.
Believe it or not schools have improved. Not to a high standard, but you’re talking decades and decades of neglect that has to be overcome.
Sure, but this isn’t unique to New Orleans. Politicians around the world are and always will be corrupt. Hopefully Helena can bring some change.
This has changed a lot post Covid. Crime is actually down across the board.
New Orleans is a tourist and big event city. That won’t change. Do we need to attract more businesses? Of course. But there’s no reason we can’t do both.
I’m not saying the city can’t do better because we all know that’s not true. But pretending some mythical amount of money would have fixed everything is illogical. It’s going to take more than 20 years to fix 100 years of neglect.
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The city is still sinking
This can’t be changed with a grant of money. Katrina or not.
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Pumps are still not working.
Inexcusable, no defense from me here.
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The schools are still failing
Believe it or not schools have improved. Not to a high standard, but you’re talking decades and decades of neglect that has to be overcome.
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Politicians are still corrupt.
Sure, but this isn’t unique to New Orleans. Politicians around the world are and always will be corrupt. Hopefully Helena can bring some change.
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Police are still useless. Crime is still high.
This has changed a lot post Covid. Crime is actually down across the board.
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The city is still known (and marketed) more for getting blasted on Bourbon than any particular industry.
New Orleans is a tourist and big event city. That won’t change. Do we need to attract more businesses? Of course. But there’s no reason we can’t do both.
I’m not saying the city can’t do better because we all know that’s not true. But pretending some mythical amount of money would have fixed everything is illogical. It’s going to take more than 20 years to fix 100 years of neglect.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 7/28/25 at 8:35 pm to BottomlandBrew
quote:Besides flood control none of that is fixable. What industry would come here, especially after the city was flooded like it was? You can't legally throw out all of the criminals or the people who dont value education. Politicians are corrupted everywhere.
Education
Infrastructure
Subsidence
Flood control
Crime/Law Enforcement
Politics
Industry (or lack thereof)
Posted on 7/28/25 at 8:39 pm to BottomlandBrew
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Education
Please expand of that
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Infrastructure
Have you driven around NOLA in the past 3-5 years?? Apparently not. There’s road closures and construction going on all around the city.
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Flood contro
$50b isn’t enough?
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Crime/Law Enforcemen
Thank God for the LSP
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Politics
You get what you vote for
President (Biden)
GOV(JBE and Jeff Landry)
Nola is at least trying to make things better with Mareno
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Industry (or lack thereof)
You are fricking clueless to how important our ports are from Venice, Ports of NOLA, Fourchon, all the way to Lake Charles.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 9:48 pm to Swagga
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The city is still sinking
This can’t be changed with a grant of money. Katrina or not.
It can largely be stopped in some areas and significantly slowed in other areas. We've treated water as our enemy instead of using it to our advantage. There's a long and legitimate history as to why we treated it as our enemy, but we now know how to use it to help keep the city from sinking.
This is the one area of my list where I have experience working with the international experts and gobs of money. I was involved with Dutch Dialogues and the Greater New Orleans Water Plan, plus dozens of other smaller scale studies and pilot projects. I know New Orleans drainage and subsidence issues really well.
As to your other points, it's been 11 years since I moved away. I hope you're right about what you say. It's an amazing place, and it deserves better. I know when I left, I had no faith in the politics, I looked over my shoulder in every neighborhood, and no way in hell would I send my kids to public school.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 9:54 pm to Jake88
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Besides flood control none of that is fixable. What industry would come here, especially after the city was flooded like it was? You can't legally throw out all of the criminals or the people who dont value education. Politicians are corrupted everywhere.
Hundreds of years ago, a city emerged from a bowl, and it made total sense on that high ground originally. It just should have never been expanded.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 10:01 pm to Swagga
After Katrina, that city turned into a turf war zone.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 10:05 pm to Smeg
Yeah let’s not focus on the positives
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The study did find a positive — some areas where industrial activities had been halted had actually caused the land to lift back up. The study's authors also hope their work will help guide other coastal cities who may be facing similar challenges to New Orleans. "This research shows that land movement isn't uniform, and understanding these patterns is crucial for protecting lives and property in a city where inches truly matter," Fiaschi said in the statement. "However, it's crucial to remember that our results still require careful ground-truthing. This is especially true for critical areas like the floodwalls, where on-site verification was not possible during this project." Ricky Boyett, spokesperson for the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers in New Orleans, said the urgent levee systems in the city were designed and built to withstand projected levels of land sinking until 2057. "Every levee system in South Louisiana is subject to settlement, subsidence and sea level rise," Boyett said in a statement. "As a result, periodic levee lifts are required to maintain the established level of risk reduction, whether that be the New Orleans Hurricane system, Mississippi River levees or other systems in the region.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 10:11 pm to Geaux Piggins Geaux
Guess I’ve made peace. I’m not irrationally reacting to how much Katrina upended everything in my family’s life. This is coming from someone who was with his wife at Baptist, had a house in Lakeview, had a career that was impacted significantly.
I’m cool because of my faith, my family, my support system and me.
I’m cool because of my faith, my family, my support system and me.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 10:12 pm to Geaux Piggins Geaux
Katrina was a life changing event for me personally for a list of reasons. And yet I never talk about it and never have really talked about it because hundreds of thousands have my same story or worse. It’s like this turning point in my life that I eventually just tucked away and moved on.
At this point talking about it hurts. So I usually don’t.
At this point talking about it hurts. So I usually don’t.
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