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re: Texas to hit all-electric vehicle owners with high fees
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:28 pm to Korkstand
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:28 pm to Korkstand
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Regardless of how you do it, taxing electricity to pay for roads will just make solar much more competitive. Then they will have to chase that one around. Tax solar panels to pay for roads? Getting pretty wacky now.
Orrrr, and I’m just spit balling here, maybe not tax every damn thing to death.
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:29 pm to shel311
Put a meter on your charging station.
Just answering the question. Anyone wanting new taxes on anything is being ridiculous
Just answering the question. Anyone wanting new taxes on anything is being ridiculous
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:30 pm to Deactived
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Put a meter on your charging station.
Itron and utility companies would love that.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:36 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:Don't get me wrong, I wont' argue that I want to pay more taxes, but somebody's gotta pay for the roads to be maintained, so I get it.
Orrrr, and I’m just spit balling here, maybe not tax every damn thing to death.
This post was edited on 8/4/23 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:47 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:It was your suggestion to tax electricity, which would quite literally tax every damn thing we do.
Orrrr, and I’m just spit balling here, maybe not tax every damn thing to death.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:57 pm to shel311
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but somebody's gotta pay for the roads to be maintained, so I get it.
Take it out of federal income tax. They collect enough money every year.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 3:01 pm to Korkstand
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It was your suggestion to tax electricity, which would quite literally tax every damn thing we do.
It's time for kitchen appliances to pay their fair share to road infrastructure.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 3:21 pm to Korkstand
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It was your suggestion to tax electricity, which would quite literally tax every damn thing we do.
Arguing we should tax something we don't currently tax then immediately stating we tax too much was quite the take.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 3:37 pm to kywildcatfanone
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They do need taxes at least equal to gasoline taxes.
Outside of a few drive-bys, I don't think anyone has argued they shouldn't cover an equitable portion of the road cost and repair compared to ICE vehicles.
The way fuel taxes are administered smooths out a lot of variables like weight and mileage driven. There is no mechanism for that in the TX admin fees. I will accept the argument that at present the cost to administer a more equitable fee may be prohibitive but at the same time I think the TX fee is not equitable and likely was crafted specifically to not be equitable.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 3:55 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
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Louisiana needs to do this.
But double whatever fee Texas is charging.
Isn't it a given that LA will double whatever any other state is charging for fees?
Posted on 8/4/23 at 4:21 pm to TxWadingFool
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Remind me of the last time Texas was out of gasoline,
when texas was out of electricity (grid failures), they were out of gasoline.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:20 pm to Street Hawk
I thought they were doing this because of the stress on the Texas grid. Especially during the brutal summers.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:49 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
EV owners are pro government in every way. Let them pay
Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:53 pm to Deactived
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Take it out of federal income tax. They collect enough money every year.
Govt at all levels takes in 10x what it needs to do for the things it should be doing, and stop doing things it should not be doing.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:55 pm to Street Hawk
I pay like $71.50 annually for registration and $25 for the inspection.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 6:03 pm to Dr RC
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The average driver in Texas is not paying $200 a year in gas tax. That's way too high.
I keep seeing this said, but when Fed tax is included Texans pay 38.4 cents a gallon in taxes. If you fill up (or even not quite fill up) once a week it isn't hard to match that $200.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 7:14 pm to rhar61
quote:One day some of you folks are gonna learn to actually think for yourselves and not just spout all the cliche and unoriginal stuff you see on the Poli Board.
EV owners are pro government in every way. Let them pay
Unfortunately, today is not that day for this poster.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 7:37 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:quote:
The average driver in Texas is not paying $200 a year in gas tax. That's way too high.
I keep seeing this said, but when Fed tax is included Texans pay 38.4 cents a gallon in taxes. If you fill up (or even not quite fill up) once a week it isn't hard to match that $200.
Buying 522 gallons of gas a year in Texas a driver would pay $200.45 in state and fed gas taxes (more fed if diesel).
I think the mpg average for new 2021 vehicles was 25.4mpg. A lot of vehicles older than that on the roads.
15,000 miles at 25mpg average would require 600 gallons of gas while paying $230 in Texas & federal gas taxes.
15,000 at 28mpg average would require 536 gallons of gas while paying $206 in Texas & federal gas taxes.
Going less miles would likely increase % of city miles in metro areas and decrease mpg averages.
12,000 miles at a 23mpg average would use 522 gallons of gas while paying $200.45 in state & fed taxes
Fed gas tax funds the federal Highway Trust Fund which does fund some highway construction and maintenance in Texas.
It’s not a perfect solution for usage fee type taxes, but it comes closer to average amount of gas taxes being paid by Texas drivers of gas vehicles than most admit.
This post was edited on 8/4/23 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:50 pm to deeprig9
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Why not simply eliminate the gas tax and replace it with the $200 registration fee for everyone regardless of vehicle type? That way you aren't picking on anyone, gas or electric, they pay the same tax for road maintenance.
Why should someone who drives 6,000 miles/year pay the same for road maintenance as someone who drives 20,000 miles/year?
Posted on 8/4/23 at 8:52 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:is it being collected on behalf of the fed? My understanding is this is only the Texas tax, that they’ll keep 100% of. Which means the feds are free to come in, and will, levy their own tax.
I keep seeing this said, but when Fed tax is included Texans pay 38.4 cents a gallon in taxes. If you fill up (or even not quite fill up) once a week it isn't hard to match that $200.
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