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re: Texas teen electrocutes herself while using cell phone in the bathtub

Posted on 7/11/17 at 12:04 pm to
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22340 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

ETA: Grats on not having a GFCI


GFCI wouldn't do anything with this. on the AC side, all delivered current would be flowing back through the neutral like normal. GFCI would need to see a difference in in the hot leg & neutral current in order to trip. The power delivered to the water would be from the DC side of the charger power supply which is separately derived.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34932 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 12:17 pm to
I'll never understand why kids these days just can't leave their god damn cell phones alone for a few minutes



^^posted from my iPhone
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

USB is 5v IIRC


This is what I thought also.

I bet there is more to this story than what has been reported.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22340 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

This is what I thought also.

I bet there is more to this story than what has been reported.


One thing that might be a bit more believable is if the charger had a really short cord so the kid used an extension cord to have it plugged in. The extension cord was long enough such that the charger itself, not just the phone, fell into the water. This would introduce 120V directly to the water and would be much more hazardous/dangerous.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

if the charger had a really short cord so the kid used an extension cord to have it plugged in. The extension cord was long enough such that the charger itself, not just the phone, fell into the water.


That's what I was thinking.
Posted by Jackie Chan
Japan?
Member since Sep 2012
4939 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

It amazes me how often I see non-GFI outlets in bathrooms


It amazes me that people play with things plugged into electrical outlets while sitting in a tub of water.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:05 pm to

Her gravestone will read

Beloved Daughter, Sister and Friend
We Love And Miss You Watts
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
6088 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

Shame. She had so much potential.


Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17754 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

GFCI wouldn't do anything with this. on the AC side, all delivered current would be flowing back through the neutral like normal. GFCI would need to see a difference in in the hot leg & neutral current in order to trip. The power delivered to the water would be from the DC side of the charger power supply which is separately derived.


Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
14269 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:14 pm to
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It amazes me that people play with things plugged into electrical outlets while sitting in a tub of water.


I agree with this 1000%. I certainly don't have the joules to play with electricity in the water.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17754 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

USB is 5v IIRC


iPhone chargers deliver 5Vdc at 1000mA

DC amperage can be fatal at >300mA
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14796 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 1:28 pm to
... and the charger/phone company.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48625 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

DC amperage can be fatal at >300mA



Not at 5 volts DC. Contrary to what people say, it is not the current or the voltage that kills you, it is the combination of the 2. A common way to think about electricity flow is to think of water flow as analogous. Voltage is like pressure, current like flow. so a pump may be capable of providing a certain flow and pressure but that pressure has to be enough to push the water where it needs to go.


I suspect it was the AC that did it (extension cord, as suggested by another) and I suspect it was a small 2 conductor extension cord so the GFCI would not come into play due to no ground circuit being present.

Purely speculation on my part.
Posted by pensacola
pensacola
Member since Sep 2005
4832 posts
Posted on 7/11/17 at 4:27 pm to
You get a lot of resistance from today's youth.
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
66986 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:26 pm to


last text released today
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12702 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:34 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/12/25 at 5:38 am
Posted by mastersleestak
Foul's Creche
Member since Dec 2014
426 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

last text released today


Wait...frick...seriously?!?
Posted by SUB
Silver Tier TD Premium
Member since Jan 2009
26319 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

notsince98 fricking nailed it.



You sure? The article indicated that she touched a frayed part of the cord, not that the cord or charger got into the water.

Either way, that's crazy / chilling that this was the last thing text she sent. Do they not teach electrical safety in elementary / middle school any more?
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
58354 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

*an



this shite grinds my gears.

yeah... got it
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12702 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:44 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/12/25 at 5:38 am
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