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re: Texas insurance lawyer fired for being present outside of White House.

Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:59 am to
Posted by Zachary
Member since Jan 2007
1647 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:59 am to
Orwell would be shocked by the current state of affairs.
Posted by rb
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5633 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 9:59 am to
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Its kind of the way US labor law works. At-will employment is an employer's ability to dismiss an employee for any reason as long as the reason is not illegal.

Not sure what would be illegal about them firing him. First amendment rights give him the right to protest, but they don't prevent him from being fired from his employer.
What about baking cakes?
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56091 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:00 am to
If he is a lawyer working as Director of Human Resources at his company, he damn well should be able to figure out how to keep from getting himself fired over this kind of shite. I didn’t read the article, but if he feels strongly enough to do this, he likely would have been the first to fire any employee that attended the BLM protests. As long as the company treats everyone the same, I’m okay with it.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65911 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:01 am to

This dude is the martyr
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36739 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:04 am to
Its a public place. Did you not see some of the people in there waking around looking like I didnwhem we toured it??

It’s OUR building. .
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
6211 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:05 am to
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had to flee ..... she was very scared


So we're riot victims.
These assholes didn't give a frick about them.
So frick the Congress people.
What goes around comes around.
Posted by Concernednewguy7
Texas
Member since Dec 2020
1073 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:05 am to
My wife’s family came from a place that dealt with the issues of communism. My father-in-law told me stories about how they began to arrest people for having made statements against the communist regime and that companies would willingly give up employees for the sake of getting in the communist parties good graces.

When he first heard of the baker being forced to make a cake for that gay couple, he told me it was beginning here. Of course I didn’t believe him. Well here we are today. We are past the point of arrival, we are in the midst of it. It will get worse and worse.

And I have bad news for all of you, you aren’t voting your way out of this.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20030 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:08 am to
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No doubt. And the solution in this instance is to stop buying this company’s product.



Or to challenge those authorities in a peaceful way, which it seems the victim of the firing was doing.

Again, I’m not arguing whether or not this guy was legally canned. If it were me I would be proud of it, was not fired because of performance and would gladly discuss with my next employer. This is just a bigger picture issue that people are applying logic selectively, and I’m not sure what the answer is. But the result will be frustration which is being heard
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
10515 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:11 am to
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Or to challenge those authorities in a peaceful way, which it seems the victim of the firing was doing.

Again, I’m not arguing whether or not this guy was legally canned. If it were me I would be proud of it, was not fired because of performance and would gladly discuss with my next employer. This is just a bigger picture issue that people are applying logic selectively, and I’m not sure what the answer is. But the result will be frustration which is being heard


I’m with you.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20030 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:12 am to
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When he first heard of the baker being forced to make a cake for that gay couple, he told me it was beginning here. Of course I didn’t believe him. Well here we are today. We are past the point of arrival, we are in the midst of it. It will get worse and worse.


Exactly. This isn’t some crazy hypothetical, it’s upon us. The bad guy used to justify this will soon be gone, but it will only get worse
This post was edited on 1/9/21 at 10:14 am
Posted by DarkDrifter
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2011
2920 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:20 am to
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If a lot of people cancel their insurance plans that would immediately make the company apologize back.


Exactly this.. Plus Goosefart went public about 2 years ago so if a mass exodus occurred their shares would take a hit..

There's also a bigger and better Texas based Independent option... In case anyone needs to move..
This post was edited on 1/9/21 at 10:28 am
Posted by Vote4MikeAck504
Go Cocks!
Member since Mar 2019
3098 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:21 am to
Yeah, totally legal. Shitty but legal.
Posted by Vote4MikeAck504
Go Cocks!
Member since Mar 2019
3098 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:24 am to
Yes, it would be if your employer received a barrage of calls about, negative press... and you’re a white male who cannot claim “discrimination.” Bye bye.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134871 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:24 am to
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The side constantly screaming about equality and oppressive government sure does love to force inequality using an oppressive government.

The weird part is that now that the left is in control of these major corporations, they don't need to use the government. They use the powers of these companies to do to you what the government can't.
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
2839 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:25 am to
Once again the other side needs to remember that they are setting precedents that will be used against them on the flip side. Is it Legal to fire him, yes. At will will exist in its current form until firings start to get out of hand or begin to target more specific groups. We will see more protected classes in the future. I’m betting political beliefs will be on deck soon as a new protected class.
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8784 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:28 am to
quote:

I'm canceling all of my goosehead policies Monday 3 vehicles, boat, homeowners. Lol I can be just as irrational as them This post was edited on 1/9 at 7:42 am


There’s no such thing as a “Goosehead” policy. They are an independent broker model.
This post was edited on 1/9/21 at 10:32 am
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6558 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:29 am to
The Biden administration is about to setup a task force to pile it on Trump supporters by locking them in their homes and making it a crime to run their businesses.

Also, they will be forced to cover their faces in shame when out in public.

This would have never happened if Trump would have got a second term.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20507 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:29 am to
quote:

The weird part is that now that the left is in control of these major corporations, they don't need to use the government. They use the powers of these companies to do to you what the government can't.




Sure, but the problem is that many of the companies still largely need republic money to operate. So again, sure they can do what they want but the response is to stop spending money with them due to their stance.

1000s of calls to cancel their insurance plans next week would shock the company.
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
4752 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:32 am to
They keep trying to cancel everything and put people on blast they will soon start seeing more people fight back and it may be with violence.

Posted by Vote4MikeAck504
Go Cocks!
Member since Mar 2019
3098 posts
Posted on 1/9/21 at 10:33 am to
Short answer: yes and it has happened
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