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re: Texas economy is cratering

Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:53 am to
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:53 am to
quote:

Hard to feel sorry for oil/gas companies making 20-25 billion profit a quarter when they were fricking us with $3.75 a gallon gas.



Oil companies don't determine the price of oil, the market does, you dufus
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:56 am to
quote:

hyperbole much?


And yes, hyperbole..that's just Jim Rockford, he seems to get his jollies in posting about oil prices tanking and the industry trending down.
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25459 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 10:58 am to
I just don't understand the hate for an industry that allows people in your region ( neighbors, family members, etc.) to have a thriving and stable lifestyle. But yet there are companies that make the same profits while outsourcing to foreign counties and no one has a problem with it.
Posted by Kajungee
South ,Section 6 Row N
Member since Mar 2004
17033 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:00 am to
quote:

Welcome to Louisiana in the mid-Eighties


This
Posted by Tommy Wayne
Member since Apr 2009
208 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:02 am to
quote:

Oil companies don't determine the price of oil


Not on paper. You're right.

quote:

the market does


Sooo, you dont think these companies has any affect on this "market" you're speaking about?? Im totally sure there is no manipulation going on.
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43894 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:02 am to
quote:

Texas economy is cratering


You haven't Been to Austin in a while. Place is booming. Their economy is completely diversified.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 11:03 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260483 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:03 am to
quote:

Houston, Dallas, Austin, and San Antonio are fine,


It could definitely hurt Houston. Not in a Detroit kind of way, but it could be quite a bump.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167247 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:04 am to
quote:

I just don't understand the hate for an industry that allows people in your region



How am I hating?

It is a free market however and O&G should learn to live by it like everyone else in the USA instead of mocking people that enjoy cheaper gas and insisting we pay more so they can keep their jobs. That's communism.

When the RE bubble popped I didn't see the same O&G guys telling everyone to keep paying inflated prices for houses so I could keep building and developing. I had to lay off a bunch of people and even quit using many subs who also had to lay off people.

Why is O&G more special than any other free market?
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97635 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:04 am to
quote:

The latest manufacturing outlook index from the Dallas Fed plunged again in March, to -17.4 from -11.2 in February, indicating deteriorating business conditions in the state.

Expectations were for the index to show a reading of -9.


So not as bad as what was expected
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:04 am to
I wish someone would tell the Houston appraisal district about this cratering economy so my tax bill will go down.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65706 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:05 am to

My God I hope Cheston is ok.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21234 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Hard to feel sorry for oil/gas companies making 20-25 billion profit a quarter


How many oil companies do you know of that are making such a profit. What percentage of those companies represents the entire industry, especially the exploration and production projects going on in the United States?

I'll hang up and listen.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32451 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Here comes the paralegals and waiters to say "good, I like cheap gas."


Because only poors enjoy saving money at the pump, right?
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21234 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:11 am to
quote:

Big oil


Who is this?
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47131 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:11 am to
I see it more as bad for long term gas prices. Sure, you're reaping cheaper prices at the pump today, but...

It's halting a lot of current exploration and probably any future exploration. The smaller companies are going broke because they can't recoup the costs they incurred over the last 5 years.

Once oil prices creep back to previous $80-$100 levels, you won't see anyone putting money into an O&G startup because they know it they can be screwed financially by the billionaires overseas trying to hold market share.

Saudi isn't doing this for the hell of it. It's a plan that will easily make the money back that they are losing with the current per barrel prices.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 11:12 am
Posted by Slingscode
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
1852 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:13 am to
Well, as someone who is working/living thru this downturn, we are as busy as we can possibly be. And yes, I'm in "Oil and Gas".
Posted by fightingtiger2335
heh?
Member since Aug 2007
61157 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:14 am to
quote:

Who is this?


Oh is this when i answer you pull out some cliche oil field wit that the trash finds funny or booming?
Hey big eirl isnt us blah blah blah
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47498 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:15 am to
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I wish someone would tell the Houston appraisal district about this cratering economy so my tax bill will go down

Believe me. harris CAD as well as surrounding counties will have their asses handed to them with increase protests if they don't cap it this year and next.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47131 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:16 am to
A lot of current projects along the energy corridor are being put on hold as a wait and see approach..

Motiva
Shell
Sasol
Elevance
Exxon

You name the company and they are cutting costs across the board they will affect a lot of people, and not just those in the O&G sector.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167247 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:19 am to
quote:

Sasol



Sasol will still happen though and they officially broke ground Friday on the Ethane Cracker

LINK


Trunkline is also moving forward with it's $11 Billion LNG plant in Lake Charles

LINK
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 11:21 am
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