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re: Tesla's Monster 54,000 Solar Panel Power Plant In Kauai Opens
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:08 pm to Leonard
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:08 pm to Leonard
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It seems like if you dont, Africa has a ton of cheap land with lots of sunlight
I feel like there's been a lot of push to get some solar farms set up in the Sahara in the past
Yes there have. They basically said they could make a farm in the Sahara that could power all of Europe.
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Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:10 pm to Tigeralum2008
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Placing wind farms offshore and along side buildings in urban centers seems to be much more efficient than solar.
I won't go as far as to say wind, or solar, is the future, but integrating them as much as possible now can't hurt.
Those little wind trees along the sidewalk in the third picture would make absolute sense in a place like Chicago.
Every hotel in Las Vegas should have solar panels.
It doesn't have to be huge, overwhelming installations. They can be small things that take pressure off the grid and are aesthetically pleasing. Some of the sculptures used to capture wind energy are very nice looking.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:14 pm to dabigfella
Not from Tesla
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:29 pm to dabigfella
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the project will reduce fossil fuel usage by 1.6 million gallons per year.
Two good oil wells can produce that amount in 12 hours.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:35 pm to dabigfella
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13.9 cents per kilowatt hour
This is roughly around 14% increase in the national average price of solar is roughly 12.2 cents per kwh. But if you compare that further to the average price Hawaiians (let's even say Kauains) pays for electricity at around 32.9 cents per kwh, which is about a 58% decrease, then I'd say you've got an incredible deal on your hands for them.
Especially when it's renewable, clean, and easily harnessed.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:39 pm to dabigfella
Companies are literally investing billions upon billions of dollars in solar and wind technologies. Obviously, scientists and heads of business believe it is possible, or they wouldn't be throwing so much capital behind this.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:48 pm to dabigfella
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does technology need to advance?
Batteries are still very inefficient as are solar arrays in terms of the wattage they can produce.
Unfortunately, the people charged with developing solar energy in America since 1965 are now known as Exxon, BP, Shell etc.
Eventually they will no longer be able to deny the Tesla technology of wireless electricity buried by Tesla' s financier JP Morgan.
Meanwhile don' t go out and buy an electric car,even a hybrid which has it's own hidden design defect
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:50 pm to Emiliooo
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Companies are literally investing billions upon billions of dollars in solar and wind technologies. Obviously, scientists and heads of business believe it is possible, or they wouldn't be throwing so much capital behind this.
Neither are anywhere near replacing gas/coal burners. More and more nuclear plants are shutting down up north due to regulations, but I still believe nuclear could be the answer if the gov wouldn't cripple it with so many regs
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:58 pm to dabigfella
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Tesla's Monster 54,000 Solar Panel Power Plant ... a 13 megawatt SolarCity solar farm
Elon is a great marketer. 13MW isn't a monster" at all. This is a a monster...
LINK
The California Valley Solar Ranch (CVSR) is a 250 megawatt (MW) photovoltaic power plant in the Carrizo Plain, northeast of California Valley. The project is owned by NRG Energy, and SunPower is the EPC contractor and technology provider. The project constructed on 1,966 acres (796 ha) of a 4,365-acre (1,766 ha) site of former grazing land.[1] It is utilizing high-efficiency, crystalline PV panels designed and manufactured by SunPower. The project includes up to 88,000 SunPower solar tracking devices to hold PV panels that will track the sun across the sky.
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:59 pm to dabigfella
quote:thats the issue with energy. in a tone of places there is an over abundance of energy but there is no efficient way to transport that energy to other places. Up in the Dakotas there are dam power plants and energy is the cheapest thing around
with solar, can you store the energy in one place and use it elsewhere or do you always have to be in close proximity? It seems like if you dont, Africa has a ton of cheap land with lots of sunlight
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:59 pm to Athletix
Battery tech, solar panel tech, and transmission tech all need to get better and will. Solar is becoming more and more viable as a supplemental or even primary energy sources in some areas.
But to make it a real primary energy source for the world's future, you've gotta put the farm in space.
But to make it a real primary energy source for the world's future, you've gotta put the farm in space.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 2:00 pm to ell_13
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Ivanpah is cooler
Always funny to see how many mirrors are already broken on that thing.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 2:05 pm to dabigfella
Grand gulf nuclear spits out 1500MW from a single reactor
Posted on 3/9/17 at 2:06 pm to Athletix
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Neither are anywhere near replacing gas/coal burners. More and more nuclear plants are shutting down up north due to regulations, but I still believe nuclear could be the answer if the gov wouldn't cripple it with so many regs
You would be correct.
People hear the word "coal" and believe you are bellowing black coal smoke out of the stack. Most fail to realize that with today's scrubbers the emissions leaving the stack from a coal powered power plant are, in essence, just hot vapor leaving the stack. The SO2, and mercury are virtually gone.
Same with nuke plants....people think that nuke plants are ticking time bombs ready to blow and shower the country side with fallout. In reality, nuke plants release no emission components into the atmosphere and are dependable as they come when it comes to reliable electricity generation.
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 3/9/17 at 2:15 pm to ell_13
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Ivanpah is cooler
and apparently run by yogagirl
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issued a statement blaming this on "clouds, jet contrails and weather
Posted on 3/9/17 at 2:36 pm to dabigfella
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1.6 million gallons per year
Google tells me that 1.6 million gallons is equal to about 52,000 barrels of oil.
The big oil tankers can carry 2 million barrels each trip.
So, this facility only saves 2.6% of the capacity of one ship, taking one trip.
Brilliant... Just brilliant I say!
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:42 pm to dabigfella
How long until people complain about the number of trees that need to be cut down to make a field of solar panels?
Posted on 3/9/17 at 3:49 pm to Chicken
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wow...that looks terrible.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 4:06 pm to dabigfella
I will be in Kauai for 2 weeks in a few months. I will be sure to walk out there and feel the Suns power coursing through my skull while I pray.
Posted on 3/9/17 at 4:09 pm to dabigfella
I represented a company years ago that was going to acquire that coop - deal fell through.
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