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re: Tesla Semi production starts; Pepsi to get first electric trucks
Posted on 10/26/22 at 12:16 pm to Mason Dixon Swine
Posted on 10/26/22 at 12:16 pm to Mason Dixon Swine
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Love the downvotes from the Muskrats here. Until this thing has a battery that's improved enough that it doesn't eat so much of the trailer weight and doesn't take ages to charge, it's just a way for companies to spend some coin in the name of being 'green'. J B hunt put in a tiny little order. Companies that order this hunk of junk are virtue signaling.
It seems PepsiCo is using it to haul pallets of lightweight but bulky potato chips around their plant property. I think that is an awesome use of the technology within its current limits.
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Posted on 10/26/22 at 12:17 pm to Mason Dixon Swine
Engineering Explained on Youtube ran the numbers and the Tesla will provide huge savings for trucking companies if the price of electricity is what Tesla claims it will be able to offer for charging. So even if you have to replace the battery, you'll come out ahead.
Charging is supposed to get to 70% in 30 minutes, which is probably not that big of a deal considering driving time restrictions for truckers but I'm sure there are some here who are experts on those regulations.
The biggest unknown is how the range will hold up in hilly to mountainous terrain. That's the major question.
Engineering Explained Youtube
Charging is supposed to get to 70% in 30 minutes, which is probably not that big of a deal considering driving time restrictions for truckers but I'm sure there are some here who are experts on those regulations.
The biggest unknown is how the range will hold up in hilly to mountainous terrain. That's the major question.
Engineering Explained Youtube
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 10/26/22 at 12:24 pm to Mason Dixon Swine
I wonder if the 500 miles includes a full load. Remember, these trucks are much bigger than the f-150 I'm assuming you're comparing this to. This means more capacity for batteries and therefore range.
Another thing you have to consider is what utility will Pepsi be using these for? I'm assuming they will be used for local distribution. I would imagine that IF the range is 500 miles under normal load, this would be plenty. It's not like they will be going coast to coast with these until, as you said, the battery is improved enough.
Also, stop acting like the management at Pepsi are a bunch of knuckle draggers. While I'm sure they are banking on receiving positive publicity from the green folks, I doubt they would invest in a product that would hinder their distribution network.
Another thing you have to consider is what utility will Pepsi be using these for? I'm assuming they will be used for local distribution. I would imagine that IF the range is 500 miles under normal load, this would be plenty. It's not like they will be going coast to coast with these until, as you said, the battery is improved enough.
Also, stop acting like the management at Pepsi are a bunch of knuckle draggers. While I'm sure they are banking on receiving positive publicity from the green folks, I doubt they would invest in a product that would hinder their distribution network.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 12:25 pm to Tygerfan
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And how long does it take to charge? This will not work for long haul truckers.
They will be for regional use. See Pepsi distribution center.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 12:29 pm to jnethe1
quote:Have you seen human drivers, you're not terrified of those people driving?
After seeing the full speed created by the Tesla hands free driving system, I am terrified of these things.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 12:31 pm to Tygerfan
quote:Why do you think long haul truckers will use the Tesla Semi or that every Semi needs to be used for long hauls?
And how long does it take to charge? This will not work for long haul truckers.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 12:32 pm to Fat and Happy
quote:They're not going to charge in the normal public spots. They won't need to. They'll obviously have designated runs on a routine and the charging needed likely at their homebase to make the runs.
That’s gonna be a cluster trying to find spots to charge that. It’s not like it’s gonna fit in the car charging spots
ETA: Quick search shows Tesla has already built a MegaCharger on site for Pepsi.
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 10/26/22 at 12:33 pm to Mason Dixon Swine
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Those trucks are a joke. Little hauling capacity, nothing but a gimmick like most of what Elon hypes.
You should call Pepsi and let them know. I'm sure they didn't think of that.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 12:34 pm to Hoodie
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It looks like a penis.
You got a faulty reference if so.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 12:35 pm to Mason Dixon Swine
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Those trucks are a joke.
With a range of 500 miles (at best) that will kill any truck driver's day. 500 miles is a good start to the day for an OTR driver.
It could be a good truck for short haul, chip deliveries like Pepsi is using it for. - Chips don't weigh a lot and the range may work out for them. It isn't a broad use truck for sure.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 12:43 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
There is talk of being able to pull up at station and actually switch physical batteries and move on….
As of now, the cost to run a tesla semi is 1/2 of the cost of diesel (not including the long range unknown charging times).
As of now, the cost to run a tesla semi is 1/2 of the cost of diesel (not including the long range unknown charging times).
Posted on 10/26/22 at 12:51 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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With a range of 500 miles (at best) that will kill any truck driver's day. 500 miles is a good start to the day for an OTR driver.
The real advantage is when they become autonomous. In that case, even if they require a full 8 hours a day recharging they still have a ~12% advantage in miles per day over a human driver.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 12:57 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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It isn't a broad use truck for sure.
Exactly but the blowhards on the OT gotta give us their $0.02.
These concepts are purely for final mile type of stuff. Same reasoning for most personal EV’s. It’s for your daily commute, not a family road trip to DisneyWorld. The grid strain issues will be resolved by in-home adoption of solar panels and battery storage.
Lots of smart people working on this. People need to stop being idiots and remember we went from the Wright flyer to man on the moon in 66 years. It’s coming.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 12:59 pm to CincinnatiTiger
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There is talk of being able to pull up at station and actually switch physical batteries and move on….
Kinda like a grill propane tank exchange. Decent idea.
I'm going to assume the thing handles multiple batteries for redundancy in case of battery failure, etc.
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:01 pm to Snipe
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Why is that dude sitting in the center of the cab?
My best guess is to simplify for international production. No left or right hand drive conversions.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:02 pm to tigerfan 64
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No left or right hand drive conversions.
Slightly related as these won't have a gear shift I presume, it amazes me that some people can shift gears with their left hand/foot!
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:16 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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Kinda like a grill propane tank exchange. Decent idea.
This is fairly common for electric cars in China. IIRC Nio is the company that pioneered it. You just drive into a swap station and drive out with a fully charged battery. The swap takes just under 5 minutes.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:17 pm to Dire Wolf
Adding 400 lbs reduced range significantly enough to where trips took much longer w more stops. This won’t work w current technology
Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:22 pm to fareplay
quote:What won't work?
This won’t work w current technology
I think Tesla as a company is "working" so I'm not sure what you're referencing.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:24 pm to John88
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Musk reiterated that the vehicle has a range of 500 miles (805 km) on a single charge.
This might work on short haul routes. But they have a long way to go for it to be a viable long haul option. most long haul trucks have 300 gallons of fuel that allows over 2,000 miles between needing fuel. Even single tank trucks can go over 800 miles.
Also, is that 509 Mile range of the Tesla truck with a full load or empty?
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 1:26 pm
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