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Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:43 pm to Obtuse1
The latest test videos I have seen of self driving are solid. It is getting better exponentially
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:46 pm to jmarto1
With almost 40 millions miles logged now it’s going to be hard for anyone to catch them for quite a while.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 5:48 pm to terriblegreen
Luckily beverage distribution is shorter distances than true OTR haulers. Drivers home every night.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:15 pm to Frac the world
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You’ll see these on the side of the interstate out of charge all across the country
Next time you see an ev broke down on the side of the road, take a picture and post it here with something visible in it proving it was you and the date/time you saw it.
Ban bet that you can't do this in two months.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:28 pm to John88
Most truck drivers keep their trucks running while they rest. How can you charge one of these things, and how long if its running?
Posted on 10/26/22 at 6:54 pm to John88
I can't get my EV. Too far down the list. Sumbeech is 20K more than when I reserved my spot.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:09 pm to CatsGoneWild
quote:They'll charge at the Pepsi Co facility at the Mega Chargers Tesla built.
Most truck drivers keep their trucks running while they rest. How can you charge one of these things, and how long if its running?
Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:14 pm to dandyjohn
Posted on 10/26/22 at 7:34 pm to Darth_Vader
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I was going off the OP. I’m busy and don’t have time to break off into an article. I thought since Pepsi was buying the trucks, they’d be hauling Pepsi. Call me crazy.
So you read the OP just not the linked article? Because the OP also clearly says it’s for a FritoLay facility.
Not that any of this matters though, because the 500 mile range is at full load, 82,000 lb GCWR.
There are plenty of private fleets that can make good use of a 500 mile full load range. No, it’s not going to make sense for long haul trucking.. I think that’s pretty obviously not the target market.
I still think we will eventually see a shift to hybrids for long haul trucking, just as we have for rail freight. They’ll have the performance benefits of electric drivetrains, the efficiency benefits of regenerative braking and an ICE that only has to run at one speed/load, and quite likely the same or equal fuel range as modern diesels.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:13 pm to CatsGoneWild
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Most truck drivers keep their trucks running while they rest. How can you charge one of these things, and how long if its running?
This is one of the least salient points in the thread. Besides keeping the engine and fuel warm in very cold temps the reason they idle (more than half of the states have no or very limited idle times for trucks) is for HVAC, lights, TV, etc. All of their needs can easily be met the same way they are on the road via the batteries and the use is tiny compared to the battery capacity the increase in charge time would be very negligible due to these "idling" current draws.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 10:19 pm to Obtuse1
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The real advantage is when they become autonomous. In that case, even if they require a full 8 hours a day recharging they still have a ~12% advantage in miles per day over a human driver.
Autonomous trucks will still need a human in them. They will be programmed to avoid wrecks. Imagine an autonomous truck in the middle of no where with valuable cargo. That cargo will be gone with swiftness unless there is a human on board to interact and interdict the attempted hijacking’s.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 10:24 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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That cargo will be gone with swiftness unless there is a human on board to interact and interdict the attempted hijacking’s.
That cargo should be fine. Vin Diesel is too old for that shite anymore.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 10:46 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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Autonomous trucks will still need a human in them.
Arguendo that is true it still doesn't impact the autonomous truck's advantage because it can drive with no time restriction any time it is not recharging whether it has a passenger or board or not. The advantage is still fully in the autonomous trucks court.
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That cargo will be gone with swiftness unless there is a human on board to interact and interdict the attempted hijacking’s.
Let's think this through. The truck that is boxed in and forced to stop is going to immediately call the police. Now the hijackers are going to have an autonomous truck they can't get to move. So the only option is to break into the trailer and unload and load what they can before the police get there. This is just not realistic to happen at a rate any higher than current true hijackings IMO.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 11:09 pm to CincinnatiTiger
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There is talk of being able to pull up at station and actually switch physical batteries and move on….
This is how envision EV's across the board to operate.
Obviously battery technology will have to continue to improve regardless, but battery module replacement would definitely shorten the time frame to main stream acceptance
It makes perfect sense for truckers. Truck stops are already in place with the land capacity to add charging stations/battery storage.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 11:40 pm to Mason Dixon Swine
Well they have full size electric school buses, guess I'm not surprised there is a Semi truck now. This did happen faster than I expected though.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 12:15 am to tiger in the gump
Another thing we fail to realize is that Louisiana is bottom of the barrel in education and that other parts of the world have people figuring shite out
Posted on 10/27/22 at 11:05 am to Obtuse1
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Let's think this through. The truck that is boxed in and forced to stop is going to immediately call the police. Now the hijackers are going to have an autonomous truck they can't get to move. So the only option is to break into the trailer and unload and load what they can before the police get there. This is just not realistic to happen at a rate any higher than current true hijackings IMO.
There are plenty of places on routes where this it completely possible. A county sheriff deputy isn't going to be a sole responder to this scenario on I-10 in west Texas where the next back-up is 45 minutes to an hour away. There are plenty of stretches where it can be done, I have driven a lot of them.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 11:27 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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There are plenty of places on routes where this it completely possible. A county sheriff deputy isn't going to be a sole responder to this scenario on I-10 in west Texas where the next back-up is 45 minutes to an hour away. There are plenty of stretches where it can be done, I have driven a lot of them.
Lord help the second person to do this after Elon found out. There not telling what he would come up with as a defense mechanism, but I'm going to go out on a limb and think it would involve high voltage since its available.
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