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re: Tesla Semi production starts; Pepsi to get first electric trucks

Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:25 pm to
Long range hauling. The amount of battery it would need to haul heavy items isn’t feasible. The trucks will be way too big and inefficient. Source: I’m a battery engineer for renewables who owns a tesla
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 1:26 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:33 pm to
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Long range hauling.
This Pepsi deal isn't about long range hauling.
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The amount of battery it would need to haul heavy items isn’t feasible. The trucks will be way too big and inefficient. Source: I’m a battery engineer for renewables who owns a tesla
That's not what Tesla is doing, so what about what Tesla is doing will not work?
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27078 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:35 pm to
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I wonder if pepsi is making a huge mistake.


The virtue signal points are worth it
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25583 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:37 pm to
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most long haul trucks have 300 gallons of fuel that allows over 2,000 miles between needing fuel.


That number is completely irrelevant because no OTR driver (unless it is a team) can do 2,000 miles without a long stop. The upper end is usually around 1,000 miles because they can't work more than 14 hours a day.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
15541 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:37 pm to
Whats the warranty like on these Semis. shite will spend more time in the shop that on the road.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64451 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:39 pm to
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The amount of battery it would need to haul heavy items isn’t feasible. The trucks will be way too big and inefficient. Source: I’m a battery engineer for renewables who owns a tesla


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That's not what Tesla is doing, so what about what Tesla is doing will not work?


You think a semi-trailer full of Pepsi isn’t heavy?

Also, I know you EV guys are cultish in your devotion to them, but you’re going to sit there and argue with a battery engineer because he said something that doesn’t fit the narrative?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110756 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:43 pm to
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You think a semi-trailer full of Pepsi isn’t heavy?
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That's not what Tesla is doing




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Also, I know you EV guys are cultish in your devotion to them, but you’re going to sit there and argue with a battery engineer because he said something that doesn’t fit the narrative?
Maybe it's "cultish" or maybe we just know the details of the story and not the stuff you're saying that is incorrect and not at all what Pepsi is doing/hauling.


I also like your insinuation that Tesla doesn't have battery engineers and Pepsi doesn't have smart people like the 1 poster does because he surely knows more than Tesla & Pepsi based on your logic.
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 1:44 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:45 pm to
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Maybe it's "cultish" or maybe we just know the details of the story and not the stuff you're saying that is incorrect and not at all what Pepsi is doing/hauling.


So you’re saying:

1. You know more about this subject than a battery engineer

2. A semi-truckload of Pepsi is in fact, not heavy.

You’re willing to die on those two hills, correct?
Posted by Floating Change Up
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Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:45 pm to
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Charging is supposed to get to 70% in 30 minutes


Plenty enough time for a trucker skank at the ole Choke-n-puke truck stop to give you a toothless blowie.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110756 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:47 pm to
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1. You know more about this subject than a battery engineer
Not the right question. YOU are saying that 1 poster knows more than Tesla and Pepsi, why do you believe that to be so?

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2. A semi-truckload of Pepsi is in fact, not heavy.

AGAIN, that is not what Tesla is doing. What part of that are you not understanding?

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You’re willing to die on those two hills, correct?
No, I'm not willing to die on the hill of something only you said that has nothing to do with what is actually happening.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
25583 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:49 pm to
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You think a semi-trailer full of Pepsi isn’t heavy?


What Pepsi is planning to haul in them is a cube out load, not a weight limited load.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Member since Dec 2011
64451 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:55 pm to
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Not the right question. YOU are saying that 1 poster knows more than Tesla and Pepsi, why do you believe that to be so?


He has more credibility than someone who’s obviously emotionally driven on the subject.

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AGAIN, that is not what Tesla is doing. What part of that are you not understanding?


What exactly do you think they plan to do with these trucks? Do you think they plan to drive them around empty as a sort of rolling billboard? Or do you think they will actually haul product from point A to B? If it’s the later, then they’ll be pulling somewhere north of 65,000 12 oz cans of product weighing probably between 50,000 - 60,000 lbs.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110756 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 1:59 pm to
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He has more credibility than someone who’s obviously emotionally driven on the subject.

Not the right comparison again, and I noticed you're dodging my questions.

You think he has more credibility than workers of Tesla & Pepsi, why do you think that?

Also, can you provide just 1 example of an emotional take I've had? This certainly isn't one, you keep spouting things you're flatly incorrect about, so if anyone is showing emotion that would be you.
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What exactly do you think they plan to do with these trucks?
It's adorable that you think Pepsi Co ONLY makes cans and bottles of Pepsi

Answer to your question, not Pepsi like you keep saying.
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What exactly do you think they plan to do with these trucks? Do you think they plan to drive them around empty as a sort of rolling billboard? Or do you think they will actually haul product from point A to B? If it’s the later, then they’ll be pulling somewhere north of 65,000 12 oz cans of product weighing probably between 50,000 - 60,000 lbs.

Still going about hauling cans of Pepsis...why are you doing that? They're not hauling Pepsis. Why are you so stuck on something factually incorrect?
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 2:00 pm to
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What exactly do you think they plan to do with these trucks? Do you think they plan to drive them around empty as a sort of rolling billboard? Or do you think they will actually haul product from point A to B? If it’s the later, then they’ll be pulling somewhere north of 65,000 12 oz cans of product weighing probably between 50,000 - 60,000 lbs.



Its literally right in the article OP posted bro

Its a Frito-Lay factory

They are hauling boxes of chips not long distances

Just shut up already
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 10/26/22 at 2:07 pm to
I was going off the OP. I’m busy and don’t have time to break off into an article. I thought since Pepsi was buying the trucks, they’d be hauling Pepsi. Call me crazy.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110756 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 2:08 pm to
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I was going off the OP. I’m busy and don’t have time to break off into an article. I thought since Pepsi was buying the trucks, they’d be hauling Pepsi.
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Call me crazy.
Crazy? Nah

Emotional and blindly anti-Tesla...obviously.
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
16152 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 2:11 pm to
No one drinks Pepsi anyway
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 2:12 pm to
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I was going off the OP. I’m busy and don’t have time to break off into an article. I thought since Pepsi was buying the trucks, they’d be hauling Pepsi. Call me crazy.



Pepsi has owned Frito-Lay for almost 60 years

Quaker Oats for more than 20 years

They sell a lot of different things

It would help to read
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33899 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 2:12 pm to
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And how long does it take to charge? This will not work for long haul truckers


Should we also throw out our toddlers because they aren't fully functioning adults? It only gets better, it never gets worse.

I feel like that's what people fail to understand.

maybe on day one something is stumbling around like a retarded toddler, but you're not limited to the day one performance - you're enabled by the best performance it's capable of in real time and it keeps getting better.
This post was edited on 10/26/22 at 2:15 pm
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6505 posts
Posted on 10/26/22 at 2:14 pm to
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You should call Pepsi and let them know. I'm sure they didn't think of that.



Im sure Pepsi is more concerned with their ESG points they will gain from this than the cost of a few battery trucks

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