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Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:07 am to fightin tigers
quote:Yea, that is interesting, 600 miles but almost 2 hours of charge time(using an "average" Model S) based on the website I use to plan long trips.
Slidell or Northshore area
I say interesting as I've seen 500+mile trips that can be done with 50 minutes of charging in a Model 3, with much less range.
His take sounds spot on, maybe just the way the stations are laid out on that trip causes for longer charge times.
This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 10:08 am
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:11 am to shel311
quote:
that large majority of folks would have the convenience of just charging up at home every night and having a full "tank" to start each day.
how much does this add to your energy bill every month, and does the extra 20k price tag for the convenience + it's per-mile energy charge still keep it less expensive or even with a traditional truck?
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:12 am to shel311
I would imagine it is base model, a few years old as well.
Seems like I remember him saying there were 3 stops involved. He has the free charging still as well; not sure how that changes things.
Have been looking at a few Model S as a daily driver. Don't really drive distance so a rental will work when I do, but street parking is another hurdle I have to overcome. Trying to get my employer to buy in on installing charging stations for free.
Seems like I remember him saying there were 3 stops involved. He has the free charging still as well; not sure how that changes things.
Have been looking at a few Model S as a daily driver. Don't really drive distance so a rental will work when I do, but street parking is another hurdle I have to overcome. Trying to get my employer to buy in on installing charging stations for free.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:12 am to shel311
quote:
But you mentioned the $39k CyberTruck had long charge times, where did you get that specifically from?
Comparatively to the refueling a $39K ICE truck, not specifically the low end Tesla truck battery versus the upgraded $70K Tesla. For an in town vehicle, charging over night isn’t a big deal. I think it is impractical presently to depend on EV’s for long road trips or towing the boat or camper to the lake for the weekend.
Do car batteries lose charging capacity over time like cell phones and lap tops?
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:13 am to Ramblin Wreck
quote:
Do car batteries lose charging capacity over time like cell phones and lap tops?
Somewhat worse. If not plugged in they use battery to stay cool/warm depending on outside weather.
Somewhat negligible amount, but has to be considered.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:13 am to georgia
quote:About $20/month, and I drive around 800 miles per month. Or, much cheaper than paying gas.
how much does this add to your energy bill every month
quote:What do you mean by extra $20k? Compared to what? Teslas are priced competitively in their given markets.
and does the extra 20k price tag for the convenience
quote:The Tesla CyberTruck will be cheaper based on Total Cost of Ownership and have better specs than basically every current truck out there, though not sure if that's what you're asking.
and does the extra 20k price tag for the convenience + it's per-mile energy charge still keep it less expensive or even with a traditional truck?
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:15 am to fightin tigers
quote:I oddly feel like you and I have had this exact conversation about this same friend of yours lol. I could be wrong, just feels familiar from way back.
I would imagine it is base model, a few years old as well.
quote:Free charging wouldn't make it quicker, it would just save that $5-7 or so at each stop.
Seems like I remember him saying there were 3 stops involved. He has the free charging still as well; not sure how that changes things.
quote:Trying to get my wife to make the jump as well and get an S, getting closer.
Have been looking at a few Model S as a daily driver.
quote:Yea, street parking is tough. I lucked out and started a new job 2 months ago with a couple of charging stations that are free, so I do over 90% of my charging now at work instead of home.
but street parking is another hurdle I have to overcome. Trying to get my employer to buy in on installing charging stations for free.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:17 am to Ramblin Wreck
quote:Gotcha. Well yea, it'll definitely take longer to charge than to tank up on gas.
Comparatively to the refueling a $39K ICE truck
quote:I think the answer to that is a very boring "it depends." But it really depends on the trip and where it is. It can be very practical in some areas and impractical in others.
I think it is impractical presently to depend on EV’s for long road trips or towing the boat or camper to the lake for the weekend.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:17 am to Ramblin Wreck
quote:
For an in town vehicle, charging over night isn’t a big deal. I think it is impractical presently to depend on EV’s for long road trips or towing the boat or camper to the lake for the weekend.
This is why the 500+ mile range cybertruck is a game changer.
One stop to charge gives you a usable range of 600-800 miles for a road trip. When Tesla rolls out the 250kWh chargers then you could get approx 500 miles of range in 45 mins charge time.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:25 am to shel311
quote:
What do you mean by extra $20k? Compared to what? Teslas are priced competitively in their given markets.
someone up the page said that it was going to be priced 20k over the price of the f150, which is I assume its competitor since that's who musk keeps singling out in his talks and videos correct?
also, do you ever think there comes a point with electric vehicles that they are comparable to all trucks? The new 3/4 tons are rated for like 30k towing, most of the guys I know who consistently work out of town are buying them to haul campers, etc. Are EV's ever going to replace that category of truck?
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:29 am to georgia
quote:I believe the base model F150 is under $30k, so if we're comparing it that way, then yes the F150 is at least $10k cheaper.
someone up the page said that it was going to be priced 20k over the price of the f150, which is I assume its competitor since that's who musk keeps singling out in his talks and videos correct?
But if we're comparing based on specs, the F150 you will get for $40k will not have as good as the specs on the $40k CyberTruck. Same goes for the $50k and $70k models.
quote:I would guess so, but also would say that time could be far, far away, not like 5 or 10 years.
also, do you ever think there comes a point with electric vehicles that they are comparable to all trucks?
quote:Completely replace...probably not. Overtake, yes I think so, but same as above. Not soon, could be decades, but I truly think it's not an if, but moreso a when.
Are EV's ever going to replace that category of truck?
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:34 am to ProbyOne
This thing could be a killer work truck. A truck that won't get dinged dented or scratch, doesn't need paint, has built in 110 and 240 v plug and an air compressor.
It will probably weigh over 6000 pounds which makes it heavy machinery and eligible for bonus depreciation so in theory you could write off the 100% cost of the truck in one year if it's used for more than 50% of your business use.
It will probably weigh over 6000 pounds which makes it heavy machinery and eligible for bonus depreciation so in theory you could write off the 100% cost of the truck in one year if it's used for more than 50% of your business use.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:34 am to shel311
quote:
But if we're comparing based on specs, the F150 you will get for $40k will not have as good as the specs on the $40k CyberTruck
They will be extremely similar.
Assuming Tesla can make a 40k truck, which I doubt.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:50 am to jmarto1
quote:
Can you charge the rivian at a supercharger? I am under the impression that you will have to charge it at home
You can.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:54 am to djrunner
quote:At home, yes. At a Tesla supercharging station, no.
You can.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:54 am to Ramblin Wreck
Any other options?
Posted on 11/26/19 at 11:18 am to Ramblin Wreck
Club Car Precedent
Posted on 11/26/19 at 11:44 am to Dr.Funke
quote:
This thing could be a killer work truck.
But you can only access the bed from the tailgate, can't reach over the side because of the sloped rear sides.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 12:25 pm to Dr.Funke
quote:
A truck that won't get dinged dented or scratch
did you see the video? they smashed the windows.....twice. 
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