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re: Tesla Cyber Truck or Rivian R1T
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:35 am to Korkstand
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:35 am to Korkstand
quote:its not.
all this is pretty much 100% bullshite.
LINK
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“If you use coal-fired power plants to produce the electricity, then all-electrics don’t even look that much better than a traditional vehicle in terms of greenhouse gases,” says Virginia McConnell, an economist at the environmental research firm Resources for the Future.
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Electric cars need to be light, which means they include a lot of high-performing metals.
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But those rare metals come from somewhere—often, from environmentally destructive mines.
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Even solar panels depend on rare metals that have to be dug out of the earth and processed in less-than-green ways, says David Abraham, author of the book The Elements of Power.
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are metals only exist in tiny quantities and inconvenient places—so you have to move a lot of earth to get just a little bit. In the Jiangxi rare earth mine in China, Abraham writes, workers dig eight-foot holes and pour ammonium sulfate into them to dissolve the sandy clay.
it goes on and on.
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Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:35 am to CarRamrod
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the EV will take 12 hours before you can go another 250
If we say you can get 80% charge in 30 minutes then to get 750 miles it will look like this:
250 250
190 250
190 250
190
If assuming a 10 minute stop vs a 30 minute stop then you spend about an hour longer using an EV.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:35 am to CarRamrod
quote:What is a "decent range" to you?
they will be. the current technology batteries just isnt there to sustain a vehicle. Until something like carbon chain batteries become something that can be built, you cant have a vehicle with a decent range.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:36 am to Ramblin Wreck
quote:What do you mean by a long time to charge? Compared to what, and where did you get that info?
Also the $39K model only has about a 250 mile range and takes a long time to charge.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:37 am to shel311
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Honest question, as I see many asking this, does Ford/Dodge/Chevy post a truck's miles per gallon when towing?
No. Not that I am really aware of.
The amount that an ICE drops off is not unknown though. There is much data on the issue.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:39 am to theunknownknight
quote:How much does it cost to tank up?
My f150 can get close to 600 miles per tank
F150 = Master race
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:41 am to fightin tigers
quote:About as often as you'd stop for gas.
Just a matter of how often you want to stop for 15-20minutes.
I mean if you're driving a shite ton, an EV may not be for you. But most people aren't really ever using an entire tank of gas in one drive more than a couple of times a year I'd guess.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:42 am to CarRamrod
quote:12 hours, 15-20 minutes...same thing.
because i can take thet ICE vehicle and drive another 250 towing a boat after 3 mins of refueling. the EV will take 12 hours before you can go another 250
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:43 am to CarRamrod
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It is easy to defend IC engines...... I can drive from coast to coast without having to wait hours while batteries charge. Where is the power coming from that charge all these cars... oohh yea burning fossil fuels. Dont be fooled into thinking all this electricity is made by wind turbines and solar panels. Look if officials really wanted the cleanest, most efficient power generation there is, there would be nuclear power plants everywhere.
oohh dont forget about all the plastics that had to be made from oil and refined to make all these electric batteries and parts for these cars/trucks. the footprint of an electric vehicle is way more than a normal vehicle.
I doubt many truck buyers care about environmental impact. But if you do an ev is the way to go. While for now producing an ev has a slightly bigger environmental footprint it is offset within a year or about 5000 miles even when using fossil fuels as an energy source. The gap will only get bigger as renewable energy continues to grow and ice cars get less efficient as they age.
Tesla is the only one with a charging network. There newest supercharger that they are now installing and updating old charges takes less than an hour to charge. It peaks at about 1000 miles range per hour added now.
Though this is only for Tesla other EVs it would take hours to charge if you could even find a place to charge them.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:46 am to shel311
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What do you mean by a long time to charge? Compared to what, and where did you get that info?
Not specifically about the Cyber Truck -
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Using a 110 volt and at a rate of 5 miles for every hour of charge you should get to 300-mile charge at 52 hours. If you want to charge for shorter periods then use the 240-volt socket which gives 31 miles for an hour of charging. Charging for 300 miles will cost you 9.5 hours.
Tesla battery charge times
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:46 am to shel311
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I mean if you're driving a shite ton, an EV may not be for you.
I agree with this. Tesla is not a distance automobile. If you mitigate range-xiety by not traveling far then you are fine.
We have a perfect description for a work truck in that way. Home every night. 100 miles or so at most during the day. No range issues.
The cybertruck is just 20k more than an F150 capable of the same thing.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:47 am to Dr.Funke
quote:Important to note that's also going from basically "empty" to full charge.
There newest supercharger that they are now installing and updating old charges takes less than an hour to charge.
You can go from 10% or so up to 80% in 10 minutes or so as you said it's charging upwards of 1000 miles range per hour nowadays.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:50 am to Ramblin Wreck
quote:But you mentioned the $39k CyberTruck had long charge times, where did you get that specifically from?
Using a 110 volt and at a rate of 5 miles for every hour of charge you should get to 300-mile charge at 52 hours. If you want to charge for shorter periods then use the 240-volt socket which gives 31 miles for an hour of charging. Charging for 300 miles will cost you 9.5 hours.
Any Tesla will face that same issue, but virtually no one is charging Teslas at a rate of 5 miles per hour. That would be comparable to me insinuating ALL ICE cars get 3 miles to the gallon.
Virtually everyone charging at home uses a NEMA 1450 that charges at 30 miles per hour, or you can utilize a Supercharging station that can charge at speeds upwards of 1000 miles of range per hour before tapering off once the car is nearly full.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:51 am to Ramblin Wreck
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:52 am to shel311
The biggest knock I have seen is when you travel somewhere and have to charge though a 110v. Say a weekend house or staying with family/friends.
Minor inconvenience since it only happens once or twice a year.
Minor inconvenience since it only happens once or twice a year.
This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 9:53 am
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:53 am to fightin tigers
quote:Yea. It can be but as of right now, it won't do it as efficiently as an ICE vehicle. It'll be cheaper and not nearly as long to charge as many think, but it simply can't charge up in 4 minutes like you would to fill your tank w/gas.
I agree with this. Tesla is not a distance automobile.
quote:Yea, and I imagine this is by far how most are driving. I highly doubt a large % of folks are driving more than 250 miles per day,so that large majority of folks would have the convenience of just charging up at home every night and having a full "tank" to start each day. Then the occasional 1-2 times per year road trips where you may have to wait a bit longer charging up than getting gas, but obviously mitigated by the cost savings.
We have a perfect description for a work truck in that way. Home every night. 100 miles or so at most during the day. No range issues
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:54 am to fightin tigers
quote:Yea, if that is something you do often and especially if that weekend house is out in the sticks or whatever without many easily accessible local charging stations within range, an EV could be virtually impossible in those instances.
The biggest knock I have seen is when you travel somewhere and have to charge though a 110v. Say a weekend house or staying with family/friends.
Minor inconvenience since it only happens once or twice a year.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:59 am to shel311
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Just a matter of how often you want to stop for 15-20minutes.
About as often as you'd stop for gas.
i just dont believe that. Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:00 am to shel311
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Yea. It can be but as of right now, it won't do it as efficiently as an ICE vehicle. It'll be cheaper and not nearly as long to charge as many think, but it simply can't charge up in 4 minutes like you would to fill your tank w/gas.
Coworker next to me has a Model S and a Wrangler. They take the Wrangler to Disney a couple times a year because the Model S is a pain in the arse to travel with (his words). Said it adds about 2 hours to the trip since he can't really hit the charging stations at optimal times in battery life.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:01 am to fightin tigers
quote:Where's he leaving from? Just curious.
Coworker next to me has a Model S and a Wrangler. They take the Wrangler to Disney a couple times a year because the Model S is a pain in the arse to travel with (his words). Said it adds about 2 hours to the trip since he can't really hit the charging stations at optimal times in battery life.
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