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re: Tesla Cyber Truck or Rivian R1T
Posted on 11/26/19 at 5:10 pm to Papplesbeast
Posted on 11/26/19 at 5:10 pm to Papplesbeast
quote:Yeah, because of bad personal experiences.
There are lots of companies people hate. People often hate their cable companies and insurance companies (particularly health).
quote:Yeah, but not because of their products.
Electronic Arts is one of the most hated companies in America.
quote:Exactly. That's why the fact that so many people say they hate Tesla stands out. I have yet to see an actual Tesla owner say they hate their vehicle or the company. It is always in the context of "subsidies blah blah" by people who don't own one, and they completely ignore the fact that their favorite car companies were extended the same exact subsidies.
But I agree that it's weird to hate a company whose product you don't own.
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Posted on 11/26/19 at 5:12 pm to Korkstand
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That's why the fact that so many people say they hate Tesla stands out. I have yet to see an actual Tesla owner say they hate their vehicle or the company. It is always in the context of "subsidies blah blah" by people who don't own one, and they completely ignore the fact that their favorite car companies were extended the same exact subsidies.
Do you have stock in Tesla? You are working overtime here bud....
Posted on 11/26/19 at 5:13 pm to beerJeep
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Like I said earlier. Your fixation on the word “hate” is extremely strange. Do I “hate” Tesla in that I get extremely pissed and just can’t contain my anger? frick no. That’s stupid as frick.
I use the word “hate” in the “i really dislike them”. You’re making a mountain out of an anthill and it’s quite strange.
Look, I am far from the only person to notice the absurd number of people who say they hate Tesla, and the almost complete lack of people who say they hate other car companies (when they have never owned the vehicle). Your attempt to turn it around as if I'm the weird one doesn't change that.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 5:16 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Does either exist yet?
Posted on 11/26/19 at 5:16 pm to Korkstand
quote:
Look, I am far from the only person to notice the absurd number of people who say they hate Tesla
Cool.
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and the almost complete lack of people who say they hate other car companies (when they have never owned the vehicle).
Legitimately any thread about any car company is going to have people coming in and shitting on that company. Ford. Chevy. GMC. Kia. Does. Not. Matter.
quote:
Your attempt to turn it around as if I'm the weird one doesn't change that.
Your fascination with the word hate is absolutely weird.
Serious question, do you think that because I said I hate Tesla that Tesla has any affect on my life? Like do you think my blood pressure rises, I get flushed, etc when I see a Tesla?
This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 11/26/19 at 5:18 pm to beerJeep
quote:Eh maybe, but not enough to worry about. I'm definitely not posting on TD for financial gain.
Do you have stock in Tesla? You are working overtime here bud....
But you are taking exception to my taking exception to your comment just as hard as I have taken exception!
Posted on 11/26/19 at 5:19 pm to Korkstand
quote:
But you are taking exception to my taking exception to your comment just as hard as I have taken exception!
touché Posted on 11/26/19 at 5:31 pm to beerJeep
quote:Yes, and that will be people who either previously or currently own the vehicle, and either had a bad experience with the product or customer service. Or its the typical playful shite-talking among brand fanatics.
Legitimately any thread about any car company is going to have people coming in and shitting on that company. Ford. Chevy. GMC. Kia. Does. Not. Matter.
The Tesla hate always pertains to subsidies, and it reeks of misinformation and propaganda. You are literally the first person I have ever heard say they hate the vehicles (aside from the truck).
quote:There is no fascination with the word hate. My fascination is with the number of people who hate the company but have zero experience with the products.
Your fascination with the word hate is absolutely weird.
I'm sorry if it wasn't clear, so let me try to make it so: the people who shite on Tesla almost always do so in the context of subsidies, yourself included. This is irrational hate because Tesla has not received any special treatment. Every other manufacturer is taking advantage of the same tax credits, albeit at a slower rate, but that's their choice.
I don't have some weird fascination with a particular word. Rather, it is a fascination with the quite obvious trend that we can all see. And, in my opinion, that trend is best explained by a propaganda campaign. Do you disagree?
quote:Absolutely not.
Serious question, do you think that because I said I hate Tesla that Tesla has any affect on my life? Like do you think my blood pressure rises, I get flushed, etc when I see a Tesla?
Posted on 11/26/19 at 5:36 pm to beerJeep
quote:I didn't mean any of this as an attack on you (or your choice of words
beerJeep
). It's just that there is a very obvious anti-Tesla campaign going on that revolves around a set of irrational and incorrect talking points, and you happened to get caught up in it when I decided to call it out. 
Posted on 11/26/19 at 5:43 pm to Korkstand
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The Tesla hate always pertains to subsidies, and it reeks of misinformation and propaganda. You are literally the first person I have ever heard say they hate the vehicles (aside from the truck).
Well, that has a lot to do with optics as well. Tesla’s entire fleet are EV, and with that comes the optics that the govt is playing a heavy hand in propping it up. Add in all the issues Tesla has had over the years poor Elon has quite a lot of shite publicity.
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My fascination is with the number of people who hate the company but have zero experience with the products.
Fair enough.
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the people who shite on Tesla almost always do so in the context of subsidies, yourself included. This is irrational hate because Tesla has not received any special treatment. Every other manufacturer is taking advantage of the same tax credits, albeit at a slower rate, but that's their choice.
The subsidies aren’t the main reason for my “hate” for Tesla though. I just really dislike the design, have extremely little faith in EVs at this stage and disagree with the govt propping up the EV sector. Being that Tesla is all EVs where as the other brands might have one or two options, that plays into my feelings towards the company as a whole, and as stated earlier I have no qualms saying the exact same about any other company taking money from the govt.
I hate all govt assistance. The feds should deal with national security, foreign policy, and ensuring the citizens rights aren’t trampled That’s it. . I firmly believe they have no place meddling in business affairs or propping up any industry.
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And, in my opinion, that trend is best explained by a propaganda campaign. Do you disagree?
Not at all. People are easily swayed by propaganda. I do try to be consistent in my beliefs though, especially when it comes to govt handouts of any form.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 5:43 pm to Korkstand
quote:
didn't mean any of this as an attack on you (or your choice of words ). It's just that there is a very obvious anti-Tesla campaign going on that revolves around a set of irrational and incorrect talking points, and you happened to get caught up in it when I decided to call it out.
All good fam
Posted on 11/26/19 at 6:22 pm to Korkstand
quote:
Rewriting Tesla history
How so?
Calling himself a founder. He was very important in getting Tesla to market, he wasn't a founder.
quote:
This was quite a high profile deal. If it was truly a scam, I'd expect to see some charges.
Pretty good lawsuit about it. Should head to trial unless Tesla settles. They will probably settle.
quote:No issue with them. He feels the need to lie about his drug use really often though.
Not sure what his personal life and vices have to do with anything.
quote:
Lies about safety issues
Like what?
Dismissing the union mongering shite, which makes me not believe either side, there have been several credible safety violations and findings despite Musk feeling the need to dismiss it all.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:28 pm to Korkstand
quote:An Exception Inception!!!
But you are taking exception to my taking exception to your comment just as hard as I have taken exception!
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:09 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Damnnnnnnnn that truck's uglyyyyy
Posted on 11/27/19 at 12:39 pm to Korkstand
quote:
Yeah, but not because of their products.
Uhh, yeah they do. Everything Electronic Arts does is a blatant cash grab, whether its buying a beloved studio and ruining it or putting more and more content behind microtransaction paywalls.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 12:41 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Logans Run
Posted on 11/27/19 at 12:46 pm to Ramblin Wreck
I hated the Cybertruck at first but I’m finding myself strangely liking it 
Posted on 11/27/19 at 1:07 pm to Ramblin Wreck
I just don't understand how people can justify buying these things when they take hours to recharge.
You just can't take road trips in these things.
You just can't take road trips in these things.
Posted on 11/27/19 at 4:50 pm to Tigear
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I just don't understand how people can justify buying these things when they take hours to recharge.
You just can't take road trips in these things.
stop being so backwards thinking. you just drive with a generator running in the back
Posted on 11/27/19 at 5:58 pm to Tigear
quote:
I just don't understand how people can justify buying these things when they take hours to recharge.
But they don.... oh nevermind.
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